From: "Rafael J. Wysocki" <rjw@sisk.pl>
To: Richard Hughes <hughsient@gmail.com>
Cc: Adrian Bunk <bunk@stusta.de>,
Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>,
Len Brown <lenb@kernel.org>,
david@lang.hm, Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
linux-acpi@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
Pavel Machek <pavel@ucw.cz>,
Stefan Richter <stefanr@s5r6.in-berlin.de>,
Nigel Cunningham <nigel@nigel.suspend2.net>,
pm list <linux-pm@lists.linux-foundation.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 2/2] Introduce CONFIG_SUSPEND
Date: Mon, 30 Jul 2007 00:22:53 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <200707300022.54633.rjw@sisk.pl> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1185744640.2295.4.camel@work>
On Sunday, 29 July 2007 23:30, Richard Hughes wrote:
> On Sun, 2007-07-29 at 23:36 +0200, Rafael J. Wysocki wrote:
> > On Sunday, 29 July 2007 23:18, Adrian Bunk wrote:
> > > On Sun, Jul 29, 2007 at 11:17:20PM +0200, Rafael J. Wysocki wrote:
> > > > On Sunday, 29 July 2007 22:40, Adrian Bunk wrote:
> > > > > On Sun, Jul 29, 2007 at 02:38:05PM +0200, Rafael J. Wysocki wrote:
> > > > > >...
> > > > > > +config SUSPEND
> > > > > > + bool "Suspend"
> > > > > "Suspend to RAM"
> > > >
> > > > Not only. This also includes "standby".
> > >
> > > Whatever it includes - please tell it to the user in the prompt.
> > >
> > > Technical issues are important, but it's often forgotten how many
> > > problems people run into because the description of a kconfig option
> > > could have been better.
> >
> > Sure. Please see the updated patch I've just sent. :-)
>
> So are you guys using:
>
> "standby" = idle state, ~0.5 seconds
> "suspend" = sleep to ram, ~10 seconds
> "hibernate" = sleep to disk, ~30 seconds
Something like this, but "suspend" is not reserved as a name of specific state.
The second state is usually referred to as "suspend to RAM" or "STR" and is
denoted by "mem" in /sys/power/state, if implemented. Moreover, "standby" and
"mem" are both entered using the same code path, so they may generally be
referred to as "suspend" states.
The times aren't strictly defined for "mem" and "standby", too. The general
rule is that the times for "mem" are greater then for "standby" and the power
drawn in "mem" is smaller than the power drawn in "standby", but the exact
values will always depend on the platform. Apart from this, if the platform
supports only one "suspend" state, it decides if that's "mem" or "standby".
On ACPI systems "standby" and "mem" correspond to the S1 and S3 sleep states,
respectively.
Greetings,
Rafael
--
"Premature optimization is the root of all evil." - Donald Knuth
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2007-07-29 22:14 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 75+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2007-07-25 16:38 [GIT PATCH] ACPI patches for 2.6.23-rc1 Len Brown
2007-07-25 18:48 ` Linus Torvalds
2007-07-25 22:51 ` Len Brown
2007-07-26 2:20 ` david
2007-07-26 4:26 ` Len Brown
2007-07-26 5:00 ` david
2007-07-26 6:55 ` Linus Torvalds
2007-07-26 17:45 ` Len Brown
2007-07-26 18:01 ` Linus Torvalds
2007-07-26 18:02 ` david
2007-07-26 18:16 ` Linus Torvalds
2007-07-26 18:27 ` Jeff Garzik
2007-07-26 18:18 ` Len Brown
2007-07-26 19:17 ` CONFIG_SUSPEND? (was: Re: [GIT PATCH] ACPI patches for 2.6.23-rc1) Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-07-26 19:57 ` Linus Torvalds
2007-07-26 20:48 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-07-26 20:55 ` Linus Torvalds
2007-07-27 22:25 ` [2.6 patch] let SUSPEND select HOTPLUG_CPU Adrian Bunk
2007-07-27 22:47 ` Stefan Richter
2007-07-27 23:03 ` Adrian Bunk
2007-07-28 8:42 ` Stefan Richter
2007-07-30 21:18 ` Pavel Machek
2007-07-28 14:44 ` Sergio Monteiro Basto
2007-07-27 22:57 ` Linus Torvalds
2007-07-28 4:52 ` [2.6 patch] SOFTWARE_SUSPEND: handle HOTPLUG_CPU automatically Adrian Bunk
2007-07-28 9:07 ` Stefan Richter
2007-07-28 18:30 ` [2.6 patch] let SUSPEND select HOTPLUG_CPU Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-07-28 7:30 ` CONFIG_SUSPEND? (was: Re: [GIT PATCH] ACPI patches for 2.6.23-rc1) Len Brown
2007-07-28 7:33 ` [PATCH] ACPI: restore CONFIG_ACPI_SLEEP Len Brown
2007-07-28 16:25 ` CONFIG_SUSPEND? (was: Re: [GIT PATCH] ACPI patches for 2.6.23-rc1) Linus Torvalds
2007-07-28 16:55 ` Linus Torvalds
2007-07-28 18:29 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-07-28 18:31 ` Linus Torvalds
2007-07-29 10:20 ` [PATCH 0/2] Introduce CONFIG_HIBERNATION and CONFIG_SUSPEND (was: CONFIG_SUSPEND?) Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-07-29 10:21 ` [PATCH 1/2] Replace CONFIG_SOFTWARE_SUSPEND with CONFIG_HIBERNATION Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-07-29 12:38 ` [PATCH 2/2] Introduce CONFIG_SUSPEND Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-07-29 20:40 ` Adrian Bunk
2007-07-29 21:17 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-07-29 21:18 ` Adrian Bunk
2007-07-29 21:36 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-07-29 21:30 ` Richard Hughes
2007-07-29 22:22 ` Rafael J. Wysocki [this message]
2007-07-30 21:26 ` Pavel Machek
2007-07-30 2:47 ` Kyle Moffett
2007-07-29 21:23 ` [PATCH 0/2] Introduce CONFIG_HIBERNATION and CONFIG_SUSPEND (updated) Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-07-29 21:24 ` [PATCH 1/2] Replace CONFIG_SOFTWARE_SUSPEND with CONFIG_HIBERNATION (updated) Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-07-29 21:27 ` [PATCH 2/2] Introduce CONFIG_SUSPEND (updated) Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-07-31 4:59 ` Len Brown
2007-07-31 9:15 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-07-31 9:16 ` [linux-pm] " Oliver Neukum
2007-07-31 10:01 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-07-30 0:21 ` [PATCH 0/2] Introduce CONFIG_HIBERNATION and " Linus Torvalds
2007-07-30 7:25 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-07-31 3:54 ` Len Brown
2007-07-31 3:54 ` [PATCH] create CONFIG_SUSPEND_UP_POSSIBLE Len Brown
2007-07-31 6:38 ` Pavel Machek
2007-07-31 9:33 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-08-03 19:23 ` Len Brown
2007-08-05 18:36 ` Pavel Machek
2007-08-01 3:27 ` [PATCH] ACPI: delete CONFIG_ACPI_PROCFS_SLEEP (again) Len Brown
2007-08-01 10:24 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-07-31 3:53 ` CONFIG_SUSPEND? (was: Re: [GIT PATCH] ACPI patches for 2.6.23-rc1) Len Brown
2007-07-31 4:09 ` david
2007-07-31 6:33 ` Pavel Machek
2007-07-26 10:07 ` [GIT PATCH] ACPI patches for 2.6.23-rc1 Gabriel C
2007-07-26 18:05 ` Len Brown
2007-07-26 18:18 ` Linus Torvalds
2007-07-26 18:38 ` Gabriel C
2007-07-26 18:53 ` defconfig , ACPI=n compile error Gabriel C
2007-07-26 7:02 ` [GIT PATCH] ACPI patches for 2.6.23-rc1 Linus Torvalds
2007-07-27 6:26 ` Jan Dittmer
2007-07-27 16:25 ` Thomas Renninger
2007-07-27 23:50 ` Andreas Schwab
2007-07-28 7:58 ` Jan Dittmer
2007-08-01 1:34 ` Yasha Okshtein
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