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From: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>
To: Len Brown <lenb@kernel.org>
Cc: "Rafael J. Wysocki" <rjw@sisk.pl>,
	david@lang.hm, Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	linux-acpi@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	Pavel Machek <pavel@ucw.cz>
Subject: Re: CONFIG_SUSPEND? (was: Re: [GIT PATCH] ACPI patches for 2.6.23-rc1)
Date: Sat, 28 Jul 2007 09:55:23 -0700 (PDT)	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <alpine.LFD.0.999.0707280932470.3442@woody.linux-foundation.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <alpine.LFD.0.999.0707280921150.3442@woody.linux-foundation.org>



On Sat, 28 Jul 2007, Linus Torvalds wrote:
> 
> And it's the *top*level* code that selects HOTPLUG_CPU. Through 
> SUSPEND_SMP (which will select HOTPLUG_CPU) and SOFTWARE_SUSPEND.

In other words, the problem seems to be that 

	kernel/power/main.c:
		suspend_devices_and_enter()

does the proper "disable/enable_nonboot_cpus()", but it does so without 
having enabled CPU hotplug.

And you seem to think that it's ACPI that should enable the hotplug, even 
though the code that actually needs it is _outside_ ACPI. And I think 
that's wrong, and that this is a bug.

So I think the real issue is that we allow that 
"suspend_devices_and_enter()" code to be compiled without HOTPLUG_CPU in 
the first place. It's not supposed to work that way.

Of course, it may well be that other architectures can happily suspend 
even with multiple CPU's active, which may be the cause of this mess. But 
I really think it shouldn't be ACPI that has to select the CPU hotplug, 
since it's not ACPI that _uses_ it in the first place.

Rafael: making a config option for STR (the same way we have a config 
option for hibernate), and just not allowing it on SMP without HOTPLUG_CPU 
seems to be the right thing. Len is right in that we do insane things 
right now (trying to STR with multiple CPU's still active), and I just 
don't think he's the one that should work around it!

		Linus

  reply	other threads:[~2007-07-28 16:56 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 75+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2007-07-25 16:38 [GIT PATCH] ACPI patches for 2.6.23-rc1 Len Brown
2007-07-25 18:48 ` Linus Torvalds
2007-07-25 22:51   ` Len Brown
2007-07-26  2:20     ` david
2007-07-26  4:26       ` Len Brown
2007-07-26  5:00         ` david
2007-07-26  6:55         ` Linus Torvalds
2007-07-26 17:45           ` Len Brown
2007-07-26 18:01             ` Linus Torvalds
2007-07-26 18:02             ` david
2007-07-26 18:16               ` Linus Torvalds
2007-07-26 18:27                 ` Jeff Garzik
2007-07-26 18:18               ` Len Brown
2007-07-26 19:17             ` CONFIG_SUSPEND? (was: Re: [GIT PATCH] ACPI patches for 2.6.23-rc1) Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-07-26 19:57               ` Linus Torvalds
2007-07-26 20:48                 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-07-26 20:55                   ` Linus Torvalds
2007-07-27 22:25                     ` [2.6 patch] let SUSPEND select HOTPLUG_CPU Adrian Bunk
2007-07-27 22:47                       ` Stefan Richter
2007-07-27 23:03                         ` Adrian Bunk
2007-07-28  8:42                           ` Stefan Richter
2007-07-30 21:18                           ` Pavel Machek
2007-07-28 14:44                         ` Sergio Monteiro Basto
2007-07-27 22:57                       ` Linus Torvalds
2007-07-28  4:52                         ` [2.6 patch] SOFTWARE_SUSPEND: handle HOTPLUG_CPU automatically Adrian Bunk
2007-07-28  9:07                           ` Stefan Richter
2007-07-28 18:30                       ` [2.6 patch] let SUSPEND select HOTPLUG_CPU Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-07-28  7:30                     ` CONFIG_SUSPEND? (was: Re: [GIT PATCH] ACPI patches for 2.6.23-rc1) Len Brown
2007-07-28  7:33                       ` [PATCH] ACPI: restore CONFIG_ACPI_SLEEP Len Brown
2007-07-28 16:25                       ` CONFIG_SUSPEND? (was: Re: [GIT PATCH] ACPI patches for 2.6.23-rc1) Linus Torvalds
2007-07-28 16:55                         ` Linus Torvalds [this message]
2007-07-28 18:29                           ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-07-28 18:31                             ` Linus Torvalds
2007-07-29 10:20                               ` [PATCH 0/2] Introduce CONFIG_HIBERNATION and CONFIG_SUSPEND (was: CONFIG_SUSPEND?) Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-07-29 10:21                                 ` [PATCH 1/2] Replace CONFIG_SOFTWARE_SUSPEND with CONFIG_HIBERNATION Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-07-29 12:38                                 ` [PATCH 2/2] Introduce CONFIG_SUSPEND Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-07-29 20:40                                   ` Adrian Bunk
2007-07-29 21:17                                     ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-07-29 21:18                                       ` Adrian Bunk
2007-07-29 21:36                                         ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-07-29 21:30                                           ` Richard Hughes
2007-07-29 22:22                                             ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-07-30 21:26                                               ` Pavel Machek
2007-07-30  2:47                                             ` Kyle Moffett
2007-07-29 21:23                                 ` [PATCH 0/2] Introduce CONFIG_HIBERNATION and CONFIG_SUSPEND (updated) Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-07-29 21:24                                   ` [PATCH 1/2] Replace CONFIG_SOFTWARE_SUSPEND with CONFIG_HIBERNATION (updated) Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-07-29 21:27                                   ` [PATCH 2/2] Introduce CONFIG_SUSPEND (updated) Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-07-31  4:59                                     ` Len Brown
2007-07-31  9:15                                       ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-07-31  9:16                                         ` [linux-pm] " Oliver Neukum
2007-07-31 10:01                                           ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-07-30  0:21                                   ` [PATCH 0/2] Introduce CONFIG_HIBERNATION and " Linus Torvalds
2007-07-30  7:25                                     ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-07-31  3:54                                     ` Len Brown
2007-07-31  3:54                                     ` [PATCH] create CONFIG_SUSPEND_UP_POSSIBLE Len Brown
2007-07-31  6:38                                       ` Pavel Machek
2007-07-31  9:33                                         ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-08-03 19:23                                         ` Len Brown
2007-08-05 18:36                                           ` Pavel Machek
2007-08-01  3:27                                     ` [PATCH] ACPI: delete CONFIG_ACPI_PROCFS_SLEEP (again) Len Brown
2007-08-01 10:24                                       ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-07-31  3:53                           ` CONFIG_SUSPEND? (was: Re: [GIT PATCH] ACPI patches for 2.6.23-rc1) Len Brown
2007-07-31  4:09                             ` david
2007-07-31  6:33                               ` Pavel Machek
2007-07-26 10:07         ` [GIT PATCH] ACPI patches for 2.6.23-rc1 Gabriel C
2007-07-26 18:05           ` Len Brown
2007-07-26 18:18             ` Linus Torvalds
2007-07-26 18:38             ` Gabriel C
2007-07-26 18:53             ` defconfig , ACPI=n compile error Gabriel C
2007-07-26  7:02     ` [GIT PATCH] ACPI patches for 2.6.23-rc1 Linus Torvalds
2007-07-27  6:26 ` Jan Dittmer
2007-07-27 16:25   ` Thomas Renninger
2007-07-27 23:50   ` Andreas Schwab
2007-07-28  7:58     ` Jan Dittmer
2007-08-01  1:34       ` Yasha Okshtein

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