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From: Rik van Riel <riel@redhat.com>
To: Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>
Cc: Arjan van de Ven <arjan@infradead.org>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, jens.axboe@oracle.com,
	mingo@elte.hu
Subject: Re: [patch] Give kjournald a IOPRIO_CLASS_RT io priority
Date: Mon, 15 Oct 2007 16:13:15 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20071015161315.4fe18e07@bree.surriel.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20071015114738.6b5a25c7.akpm@linux-foundation.org>

On Mon, 15 Oct 2007 11:47:38 -0700
Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org> wrote:
> On Mon, 15 Oct 2007 10:46:47 -0700
> Arjan van de Ven <arjan@infradead.org> wrote:
> 
> > 
> > Subject: Give kjournald a IOPRIO_CLASS_RT io priority
> > From: Arjan van de Ven <arjan@linux.intel.com>

> Seems a pretty fundamental change which could do with some careful
> benchmarking, methinks.

FWIW, I have marked the kjournald processes on my system
realtime with "rtprio -c 1 `pidof kjournald`" and the
usual desktop stalls that plague my system have not yet
happened this afternoon.

> See, your patch amounts to "do more seeks to improve one test case". 
> Surely other testcases will worsen.  What are they?

The big problem I have seen here is that processes end up
waiting on kjournald to do something, and kjournald is
waiting due to the IO scheduler.

This can cause a lot of low IO (high IO priority) processes
to indirectly get stuck behind a few high IO (low priority)
processes.

Since you have been involved a lot with ext3 development,
which kinds of workloads do you think will show a performance
degradation with Arjan's patch?   What should I test?

-- 
"Debugging is twice as hard as writing the code in the first place.
Therefore, if you write the code as cleverly as possible, you are,
by definition, not smart enough to debug it." - Brian W. Kernighan

  parent reply	other threads:[~2007-10-15 20:16 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 76+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2007-10-15 17:46 Arjan van de Ven
2007-10-15 18:47 ` Andrew Morton
2007-10-15 19:28   ` Jens Axboe
2007-10-22  9:10     ` Ingo Molnar
2007-10-22  9:23       ` Andrew Morton
2007-10-22  9:27         ` Ingo Molnar
2007-10-22  9:40         ` Ingo Molnar
2007-10-22  9:49           ` Andrew Morton
2007-10-15 20:13   ` Rik van Riel [this message]
2007-10-15 21:12     ` Andrew Morton
     [not found]       ` <473B18BA.5000709@hp.com>
2007-11-14 17:14         ` Andrew Morton
2007-11-14 17:18           ` Ingo Molnar
2007-11-14 17:51             ` Arjan van de Ven
2007-11-14 18:55               ` Ingo Molnar
2007-11-14 19:43               ` Alan D. Brunelle
2007-11-14 19:24           ` Alan D. Brunelle
2007-11-14 19:50             ` Arjan van de Ven
2007-11-14 19:56             ` Alan D. Brunelle
2007-11-16 16:25           ` Alan D. Brunelle
2007-11-16 16:40             ` Alan D. Brunelle
2007-11-16 18:35             ` Ray Lee
2007-11-16 18:39               ` Alan D. Brunelle
2008-10-02  3:00 [PATCH] " Arjan van de Ven
2008-10-02  4:56 ` Andrew Morton
2008-10-02  6:27   ` Jens Axboe
2008-10-02  6:55     ` Andrew Morton
2008-10-02  7:45       ` Jens Axboe
2008-10-02  8:03         ` Andrew Morton
2008-10-02  8:22           ` Jens Axboe
2008-10-02  8:43             ` Andrew Morton
2008-10-02  8:46               ` Jens Axboe
2008-10-02 12:04           ` Theodore Tso
2008-10-02 13:16             ` Arjan van de Ven
2008-10-02 13:46               ` Theodore Tso
2008-10-02 14:33                 ` Arjan van de Ven
2008-10-04 14:12                   ` Theodore Tso
2008-10-04 17:14                     ` Joseph Fannin
2008-10-04 21:27                       ` Theodore Tso
2008-10-02 13:12       ` Arjan van de Ven
2008-10-02 20:24         ` Andrew Morton
2008-10-03  4:01           ` Arjan van de Ven
2008-10-03  4:23             ` Arjan van de Ven
2008-10-03  4:40               ` Andrew Morton
2008-10-03  4:43                 ` Arjan van de Ven
2008-10-03  4:50                   ` Andrew Morton
2008-10-03  5:00                     ` Arjan van de Ven
2008-10-03  5:24                       ` Andrew Morton
2008-10-03 17:21                         ` Arjan van de Ven
2008-10-09  3:00                         ` Theodore Tso
2008-10-09  3:38                           ` Andrew Morton
2008-10-03  4:45                 ` Arjan van de Ven
2008-10-02  6:57   ` Andi Kleen
2008-10-02  7:55     ` Jens Axboe
2008-10-02  9:33       ` Dave Chinner
2008-10-02  9:45         ` Jens Axboe
2008-10-02 13:14           ` Arjan van de Ven
2008-10-02 13:27             ` Jens Axboe
2008-10-02 13:36               ` Arjan van de Ven
2008-10-02 13:47                 ` Jens Axboe
2008-10-02 14:26                   ` Arjan van de Ven
2008-10-02 16:42                     ` Jens Axboe
2008-10-02 19:04           ` Arjan van de Ven
2008-10-02 19:22             ` Jens Axboe
2008-10-02 21:37               ` Andrew Morton
2008-10-02 23:58                 ` Dave Chinner
2008-10-03  0:06                   ` Andrew Morton
2008-10-03  0:20                     ` Andrew Morton
2008-10-02 13:05   ` Arjan van de Ven
2008-10-02 17:11     ` Jens Axboe
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     [not found] ` <biosl-6bq-9@gated-at.bofh.it>
     [not found]   ` <biqkw-aK-3@gated-at.bofh.it>
     [not found]     ` <birgx-1pQ-9@gated-at.bofh.it>
     [not found]       ` <bisPe-3xx-9@gated-at.bofh.it>
     [not found]         ` <bisYW-3HQ-13@gated-at.bofh.it>
2008-10-02 15:32           ` Bodo Eggert
2008-10-02 23:34             ` Dave Chinner
2008-10-04  7:45               ` Aaron Carroll
2008-10-06  3:18                 ` Dave Chinner
2008-10-07 18:06                   ` Jens Axboe
2008-10-07 22:22                     ` Dave Chinner
2008-10-09  8:48                       ` Jens Axboe

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