From: Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>
To: Arjan van de Ven <arjan@infradead.org>
Cc: Jens Axboe <jens.axboe@oracle.com>,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, Alan Cox <alan@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] Give kjournald a IOPRIO_CLASS_RT io priority
Date: Thu, 2 Oct 2008 21:50:26 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20081002215026.a63ba0d0.akpm@linux-foundation.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20081002214353.30873f98@infradead.org>
On Thu, 2 Oct 2008 21:43:53 -0700 Arjan van de Ven <arjan@infradead.org> wrote:
> > [ 517.067572] [<c042ee64>] warn_on_slowpath+0x41/0x65
> > [ 517.067652] [<c070ec83>] io_schedule+0x77/0xb0
> > [ 517.067659] [<c04abc72>] sync_buffer+0x33/0x37
> > [ 517.067666] [<c070f010>] __wait_on_bit_lock+0x34/0x5e
> > [ 517.067682] [<c070f0e5>] out_of_line_wait_on_bit_lock+0xab/0xb3
> > [ 517.067707] [<c04abfa1>] __lock_buffer+0x24/0x2a
> > [ 517.067715] [<c04dd7fc>] do_get_write_access+0x64/0x3b1
> > [ 517.067743] [<c04ddb64>] journal_get_write_access+0x1b/0x2a
> > [ 517.067752] [<c04da374>] __ext3_journal_get_write_access+0x19/0x3c
> > [ 517.067761] [<c04cf672>] ext3_reserve_inode_write+0x34/0x68
> > [ 517.067769] [<c04cf6d5>] ext3_mark_inode_dirty+0x2f/0x46
> > [ 517.067777] [<c04cf7f7>] ext3_dirty_inode+0x53/0x67
> > [ 517.067784] [<c04a7bed>] __mark_inode_dirty+0x29/0x144
> > [ 517.067794] [<c049e60f>] file_update_time+0x80/0xa9
> > [ 517.067803] [<c046b66c>] __generic_file_aio_write_nolock+0x2f0/0x41b
> > [ 517.067842] [<c046bf0d>] generic_file_aio_write+0x5a/0xb7
> > [ 517.067850] [<c04cdc65>] ext3_file_write+0x1a/0x89
> > [ 517.067858] [<c048da41>] do_sync_write+0xab/0xe9
> > [ 517.067896] [<c048e302>] vfs_write+0x8a/0x12e
> > [ 517.067903] [<c048e43f>] sys_write+0x3b/0x60
> > [ 517.067910] [<c0403b0b>] sysenter_do_call+0x12/0x2f
> > [ 517.067919] =======================
> > [ 517.067923] ---[ end trace de523043f88bd9a7 ]---
>
> > That's the one - the lock_buffer() in do_get_write_access(). It's a
> > major contention site and it'd be a major win if we could fix it.
> > Even if we resorted to some nasty thing like taking a temp copy of the
> > buffer's contents.
>
> I also notice it's part of "file_update_time". Do we really need to go all the way
> down to this level of synchronicity for that?
Well, we've tossed that around many times but never implemented it.
Once you get into the details it gets a bit nasty. Need to keep the
dirtiness state in the VFS (or fs) inode, and going backwards from a
plain old buffer_head at commit time isn't possible. We usually
tempfixed the problem by adding increasingly fancy ways of not doing the
atime update at all.
Of course, fixing this running-vs-committing contention point would fix
a lot more things than just atime updates.
> (I also randomly wonder if we, in the write path, dirty the inode twice, once for size once for item, and
> if we then also reserve two slots in the journal for that.....
That shouldn't be the case - once we have write access to the buffer it
remains freely modifiable for the rest of the transaction period. I
think.
> but I'm showing
> my total ignorance of JBD internals here)
I'm going on senile memories of JDB five years ago, but the concepts
didn't change much.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2008-10-03 4:51 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 76+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2008-10-02 3:00 Arjan van de Ven
2008-10-02 4:56 ` Andrew Morton
2008-10-02 6:27 ` Jens Axboe
2008-10-02 6:55 ` Andrew Morton
2008-10-02 7:45 ` Jens Axboe
2008-10-02 8:03 ` Andrew Morton
2008-10-02 8:22 ` Jens Axboe
2008-10-02 8:43 ` Andrew Morton
2008-10-02 8:46 ` Jens Axboe
2008-10-02 12:04 ` Theodore Tso
2008-10-02 13:16 ` Arjan van de Ven
2008-10-02 13:46 ` Theodore Tso
2008-10-02 14:33 ` Arjan van de Ven
2008-10-04 14:12 ` Theodore Tso
2008-10-04 17:14 ` Joseph Fannin
2008-10-04 21:27 ` Theodore Tso
2008-10-02 13:12 ` Arjan van de Ven
2008-10-02 20:24 ` Andrew Morton
2008-10-03 4:01 ` Arjan van de Ven
2008-10-03 4:23 ` Arjan van de Ven
2008-10-03 4:40 ` Andrew Morton
2008-10-03 4:43 ` Arjan van de Ven
2008-10-03 4:50 ` Andrew Morton [this message]
2008-10-03 5:00 ` Arjan van de Ven
2008-10-03 5:24 ` Andrew Morton
2008-10-03 17:21 ` Arjan van de Ven
2008-10-09 3:00 ` Theodore Tso
2008-10-09 3:38 ` Andrew Morton
2008-10-03 4:45 ` Arjan van de Ven
2008-10-02 6:57 ` Andi Kleen
2008-10-02 7:55 ` Jens Axboe
2008-10-02 9:33 ` Dave Chinner
2008-10-02 9:45 ` Jens Axboe
2008-10-02 13:14 ` Arjan van de Ven
2008-10-02 13:27 ` Jens Axboe
2008-10-02 13:36 ` Arjan van de Ven
2008-10-02 13:47 ` Jens Axboe
2008-10-02 14:26 ` Arjan van de Ven
2008-10-02 16:42 ` Jens Axboe
2008-10-02 19:04 ` Arjan van de Ven
2008-10-02 19:22 ` Jens Axboe
2008-10-02 21:37 ` Andrew Morton
2008-10-02 23:58 ` Dave Chinner
2008-10-03 0:06 ` Andrew Morton
2008-10-03 0:20 ` Andrew Morton
2008-10-02 13:05 ` Arjan van de Ven
2008-10-02 17:11 ` Jens Axboe
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[not found] ` <biqkw-aK-3@gated-at.bofh.it>
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[not found] ` <bisPe-3xx-9@gated-at.bofh.it>
[not found] ` <bisYW-3HQ-13@gated-at.bofh.it>
2008-10-02 15:32 ` Bodo Eggert
2008-10-02 23:34 ` Dave Chinner
2008-10-04 7:45 ` Aaron Carroll
2008-10-06 3:18 ` Dave Chinner
2008-10-07 18:06 ` Jens Axboe
2008-10-07 22:22 ` Dave Chinner
2008-10-09 8:48 ` Jens Axboe
-- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2007-10-15 17:46 [patch] " Arjan van de Ven
2007-10-15 18:47 ` Andrew Morton
2007-10-15 19:28 ` Jens Axboe
2007-10-22 9:10 ` Ingo Molnar
2007-10-22 9:23 ` Andrew Morton
2007-10-22 9:27 ` Ingo Molnar
2007-10-22 9:40 ` Ingo Molnar
2007-10-22 9:49 ` Andrew Morton
2007-10-15 20:13 ` Rik van Riel
2007-10-15 21:12 ` Andrew Morton
[not found] ` <473B18BA.5000709@hp.com>
2007-11-14 17:14 ` Andrew Morton
2007-11-14 17:18 ` Ingo Molnar
2007-11-14 17:51 ` Arjan van de Ven
2007-11-14 18:55 ` Ingo Molnar
2007-11-14 19:43 ` Alan D. Brunelle
2007-11-14 19:24 ` Alan D. Brunelle
2007-11-14 19:50 ` Arjan van de Ven
2007-11-14 19:56 ` Alan D. Brunelle
2007-11-16 16:25 ` Alan D. Brunelle
2007-11-16 16:40 ` Alan D. Brunelle
2007-11-16 18:35 ` Ray Lee
2007-11-16 18:39 ` Alan D. Brunelle
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