From: Jens Axboe <jens.axboe@oracle.com>
To: Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>
Cc: Arjan van de Ven <arjan@infradead.org>,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, Alan Cox <alan@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] Give kjournald a IOPRIO_CLASS_RT io priority
Date: Thu, 2 Oct 2008 10:46:49 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20081002084649.GZ19428@kernel.dk> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20081002014332.7d04bddc.akpm@linux-foundation.org>
On Thu, Oct 02 2008, Andrew Morton wrote:
> On Thu, 2 Oct 2008 10:22:13 +0200 Jens Axboe <jens.axboe@oracle.com> wrote:
>
> > On Thu, Oct 02 2008, Andrew Morton wrote:
> > > On Thu, 2 Oct 2008 09:45:24 +0200 Jens Axboe <jens.axboe@oracle.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > > > So. Where are these atime updaters getting blocked?
> > > >
> > > > Behind other IO activity I suppose, since it's marked async. A more
> > > > appropriate fix may be to mark atime updates as sync IO.
> > >
> > > No, they might be getting blocked at a higher level.
> > >
> > > An async atime update gets recorded into the current transaction.
> > > kjournald is working on the committing transaction. We try to keep
> > > those separated, to prevent user processes from getting blocked behind
> > > kjournald activity.
> > >
> > > But sometimes that doesn't work (including the place where I knowingly
> > > broke it). If we can find and fix the offending piece of jbd logic (a
> > > big if) then all is peachy.
> > >
> > > If the above theory turns out to be true then diddling IO priorities
> > > is but a workaround.
> >
> > If diddling with io priorities makes a big difference (and Arjan said it
> > does), it's clearly stuck inside the io scheduler waiting to be
> > dispatched. If it was marked sync, it would be going through much
> > faster. As async, it'll get mixed in with other async writeout and that
> > doesn't get a lot of attention in case of sync activity.
> >
>
> Maybe. And maybe marking all journal writeout and all commit activity
> as sync would have the same effect with less downside.
>
> But it'd be better to not wait on this IO at all, if poss..
Agree, would be much better...
--
Jens Axboe
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2008-10-02 8:47 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 76+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2008-10-02 3:00 Arjan van de Ven
2008-10-02 4:56 ` Andrew Morton
2008-10-02 6:27 ` Jens Axboe
2008-10-02 6:55 ` Andrew Morton
2008-10-02 7:45 ` Jens Axboe
2008-10-02 8:03 ` Andrew Morton
2008-10-02 8:22 ` Jens Axboe
2008-10-02 8:43 ` Andrew Morton
2008-10-02 8:46 ` Jens Axboe [this message]
2008-10-02 12:04 ` Theodore Tso
2008-10-02 13:16 ` Arjan van de Ven
2008-10-02 13:46 ` Theodore Tso
2008-10-02 14:33 ` Arjan van de Ven
2008-10-04 14:12 ` Theodore Tso
2008-10-04 17:14 ` Joseph Fannin
2008-10-04 21:27 ` Theodore Tso
2008-10-02 13:12 ` Arjan van de Ven
2008-10-02 20:24 ` Andrew Morton
2008-10-03 4:01 ` Arjan van de Ven
2008-10-03 4:23 ` Arjan van de Ven
2008-10-03 4:40 ` Andrew Morton
2008-10-03 4:43 ` Arjan van de Ven
2008-10-03 4:50 ` Andrew Morton
2008-10-03 5:00 ` Arjan van de Ven
2008-10-03 5:24 ` Andrew Morton
2008-10-03 17:21 ` Arjan van de Ven
2008-10-09 3:00 ` Theodore Tso
2008-10-09 3:38 ` Andrew Morton
2008-10-03 4:45 ` Arjan van de Ven
2008-10-02 6:57 ` Andi Kleen
2008-10-02 7:55 ` Jens Axboe
2008-10-02 9:33 ` Dave Chinner
2008-10-02 9:45 ` Jens Axboe
2008-10-02 13:14 ` Arjan van de Ven
2008-10-02 13:27 ` Jens Axboe
2008-10-02 13:36 ` Arjan van de Ven
2008-10-02 13:47 ` Jens Axboe
2008-10-02 14:26 ` Arjan van de Ven
2008-10-02 16:42 ` Jens Axboe
2008-10-02 19:04 ` Arjan van de Ven
2008-10-02 19:22 ` Jens Axboe
2008-10-02 21:37 ` Andrew Morton
2008-10-02 23:58 ` Dave Chinner
2008-10-03 0:06 ` Andrew Morton
2008-10-03 0:20 ` Andrew Morton
2008-10-02 13:05 ` Arjan van de Ven
2008-10-02 17:11 ` Jens Axboe
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[not found] ` <biqkw-aK-3@gated-at.bofh.it>
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[not found] ` <bisPe-3xx-9@gated-at.bofh.it>
[not found] ` <bisYW-3HQ-13@gated-at.bofh.it>
2008-10-02 15:32 ` Bodo Eggert
2008-10-02 23:34 ` Dave Chinner
2008-10-04 7:45 ` Aaron Carroll
2008-10-06 3:18 ` Dave Chinner
2008-10-07 18:06 ` Jens Axboe
2008-10-07 22:22 ` Dave Chinner
2008-10-09 8:48 ` Jens Axboe
-- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2007-10-15 17:46 [patch] " Arjan van de Ven
2007-10-15 18:47 ` Andrew Morton
2007-10-15 19:28 ` Jens Axboe
2007-10-22 9:10 ` Ingo Molnar
2007-10-22 9:23 ` Andrew Morton
2007-10-22 9:27 ` Ingo Molnar
2007-10-22 9:40 ` Ingo Molnar
2007-10-22 9:49 ` Andrew Morton
2007-10-15 20:13 ` Rik van Riel
2007-10-15 21:12 ` Andrew Morton
[not found] ` <473B18BA.5000709@hp.com>
2007-11-14 17:14 ` Andrew Morton
2007-11-14 17:18 ` Ingo Molnar
2007-11-14 17:51 ` Arjan van de Ven
2007-11-14 18:55 ` Ingo Molnar
2007-11-14 19:43 ` Alan D. Brunelle
2007-11-14 19:24 ` Alan D. Brunelle
2007-11-14 19:50 ` Arjan van de Ven
2007-11-14 19:56 ` Alan D. Brunelle
2007-11-16 16:25 ` Alan D. Brunelle
2007-11-16 16:40 ` Alan D. Brunelle
2007-11-16 18:35 ` Ray Lee
2007-11-16 18:39 ` Alan D. Brunelle
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