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From: Arjan van de Ven <arjan@infradead.org>
To: Nick Piggin <nickpiggin@yahoo.com.au>
Cc: Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>,
	"Kleen, Andi" <ak@suse.de>
Subject: Re: Is gcc thread-unsafe?
Date: Wed, 24 Oct 2007 20:46:31 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20071024204631.7e7e3c47@laptopd505.fenrus.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <200710251324.49888.nickpiggin@yahoo.com.au>

On Thu, 25 Oct 2007 13:24:49 +1000
Nick Piggin <nickpiggin@yahoo.com.au> wrote:

> Hi,
> 
> Andi spotted this exchange on the gcc list. I don't think he's
> brought it up here yet, but it worries me enough that I'd like
> to discuss it.
> 
> Starts here
> http://gcc.gnu.org/ml/gcc/2007-10/msg00266.html
> 
> Concrete example here
> http://gcc.gnu.org/ml/gcc/2007-10/msg00275.html
> 
> Basically, what the gcc developers are saying is that gcc is
> free to load and store to any memory location, so long as it
> behaves as if the instructions were executed in sequence.
> 


this optimization btw is a serious mis-optimization, it makes memory
more dirty and causes cachelines to become unshared.... I'm sure it
works great on microbenchmarks but it sucks bigtime for anything real

  reply	other threads:[~2007-10-25  3:50 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 61+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2007-10-25  3:24 Nick Piggin
2007-10-25  3:46 ` Arjan van de Ven [this message]
2007-10-25  3:58   ` Nick Piggin
2007-10-25  4:29     ` David Schwartz
2007-10-25  4:35       ` Arjan van de Ven
2007-10-25 18:45         ` Måns Rullgård
2007-10-25  4:47       ` Nick Piggin
2007-10-25  9:40         ` Samuel Tardieu
2007-10-25  9:44         ` Samuel Tardieu
2007-10-25  9:54           ` Samuel Tardieu
2007-10-25  9:55           ` Andi Kleen
2007-10-25  7:15 ` Andi Kleen
2007-10-25 11:58   ` linux-os (Dick Johnson)
2007-10-25 12:16     ` Andi Kleen
2007-10-25 22:49   ` Nick Piggin
2007-10-25 23:09     ` Andi Kleen
2007-10-25 23:14       ` Linus Torvalds
2007-10-25 23:16         ` Andi Kleen
2007-10-25 23:32           ` Linus Torvalds
2007-10-25 23:42             ` Andi Kleen
2007-10-25 23:57               ` Linus Torvalds
2007-10-26  1:15                 ` Zachary Amsden
2007-10-26  4:57               ` Willy Tarreau
2007-10-25 23:43       ` Nick Piggin
2007-10-25 23:55         ` Andi Kleen
2007-10-25 23:57           ` Nick Piggin
2007-10-25 14:55 ` Linus Torvalds
2007-10-25 15:12   ` Pekka Enberg
2007-10-25 21:42   ` David Schwartz
2007-10-25 23:22     ` Nick Piggin
2007-10-26 11:59       ` Andrew Haley
2007-10-26 17:39         ` Chris Friesen
2007-10-26 11:59       ` Andrew Haley
2007-10-25 22:26   ` Ismail Dönmez
2007-10-25 22:56     ` Jeff Garzik
2007-10-25 23:04       ` Jeff Garzik
2007-10-31 22:10 ` Phillip Susi
     [not found] <fa.JbRGo0cQWncrcfKHmiNdvchsA50@ifi.uio.no>
     [not found] ` <fa.8qDECVaPIo7DWbjhQbyw6N5Infg@ifi.uio.no>
     [not found]   ` <fa.M4DOMggyrQmdTqekWSuw4xCxiTc@ifi.uio.no>
2007-10-25 23:27     ` Robert Hancock
     [not found] <e2e108260710260729x4603211cgb68d7434ce1e54e9@mail.gmail.com>
2007-10-26 14:40 ` Bart Van Assche
2007-10-26 15:09   ` Linus Torvalds
2007-10-26 15:34     ` Andrew Haley
2007-10-26 18:06       ` David Schwartz
2007-10-30 10:20         ` Andrew Haley
2007-11-02 15:29           ` Bart Van Assche
2007-11-02 15:38             ` Andrew Haley
2007-11-04 15:13               ` Bart Van Assche
2007-11-04 17:45                 ` Linus Torvalds
2007-11-04 17:58                   ` Andrew Haley
2007-11-04 18:06                   ` Bart Van Assche
2007-11-02 17:18             ` David Schwartz
2007-10-26 21:45     ` Giacomo Catenazzi
2007-10-26 22:24       ` Linus Torvalds
2007-10-26 15:27   ` Linus Torvalds
2007-10-26 16:28     ` Linus Torvalds
2007-10-26 17:07       ` Bart Van Assche
2007-10-26 17:12         ` Andrew Haley
2007-10-26 17:25           ` Linus Torvalds
2007-10-26 18:08         ` Alan Cox
2007-10-26 18:14           ` Linus Torvalds
2007-10-26 20:39           ` Andi Kleen
2007-10-28 18:19 linux

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