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From: "Bart Van Assche" <bart.vanassche@gmail.com>
To: "Linus Torvalds" <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>
Cc: "Andrew Haley" <aph@redhat.com>,
	"Linux Kernel Mailing List" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	"Tomash Brechko" <tomash.brechko@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: Is gcc thread-unsafe?
Date: Sun, 4 Nov 2007 19:06:28 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <e2e108260711041006i4135f347gd101f061b0b503da@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <alpine.LFD.0.999.0711040943540.15101@woody.linux-foundation.org>

On 11/4/07, Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org> wrote:
>
> On Sun, 4 Nov 2007, Bart Van Assche wrote:
> >
> > Has it already been decided who will do this audit, and when this
> > audit will happen ? Has a target date been set when this audit should
> > be complete, or is the completion of this audit a requirement for the
> > release of a specific gcc version ?
>
> I am told that the gcc people realized that was indeed a bug (people were
> able to show problems even in non-threaded environments with mprotect()),
> and have now fixed it in the current gcc sources. That still leaves the
> old versions with potential problems, but I think it makes it much less
> interesting to audit for these things.
>
>                 Linus

What I understood from the gcc mailing list is that a patch has been
applied to the gcc sources that solves the issue with speculative
stores that was already discussed here on the LKML
(http://gcc.gnu.org/ml/gcc/2007-10/msg00554.html).

But the issue I am referring to is a different issue: namely that a
compiler optimization called register promotion can introduce data
races. Hans J. Boehm has a clear explanation of this -- see also
paragraph 4.3 in
http://www.hpl.hp.com/techreports/2004/HPL-2004-209.pdf or
http://portal.acm.org/citation.cfm?id=1064978.1065042 .

Bart Van Assche.

  parent reply	other threads:[~2007-11-04 18:06 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 61+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <e2e108260710260729x4603211cgb68d7434ce1e54e9@mail.gmail.com>
2007-10-26 14:40 ` Bart Van Assche
2007-10-26 15:09   ` Linus Torvalds
2007-10-26 15:34     ` Andrew Haley
2007-10-26 18:06       ` David Schwartz
2007-10-30 10:20         ` Andrew Haley
2007-11-02 15:29           ` Bart Van Assche
2007-11-02 15:38             ` Andrew Haley
2007-11-04 15:13               ` Bart Van Assche
2007-11-04 17:45                 ` Linus Torvalds
2007-11-04 17:58                   ` Andrew Haley
2007-11-04 18:06                   ` Bart Van Assche [this message]
2007-11-02 17:18             ` David Schwartz
2007-10-26 21:45     ` Giacomo Catenazzi
2007-10-26 22:24       ` Linus Torvalds
2007-10-26 15:27   ` Linus Torvalds
2007-10-26 16:28     ` Linus Torvalds
2007-10-26 17:07       ` Bart Van Assche
2007-10-26 17:12         ` Andrew Haley
2007-10-26 17:25           ` Linus Torvalds
2007-10-26 18:08         ` Alan Cox
2007-10-26 18:14           ` Linus Torvalds
2007-10-26 20:39           ` Andi Kleen
2007-10-28 18:19 linux
     [not found] <fa.JbRGo0cQWncrcfKHmiNdvchsA50@ifi.uio.no>
     [not found] ` <fa.8qDECVaPIo7DWbjhQbyw6N5Infg@ifi.uio.no>
     [not found]   ` <fa.M4DOMggyrQmdTqekWSuw4xCxiTc@ifi.uio.no>
2007-10-25 23:27     ` Robert Hancock
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2007-10-25  3:24 Nick Piggin
2007-10-25  3:46 ` Arjan van de Ven
2007-10-25  3:58   ` Nick Piggin
2007-10-25  4:29     ` David Schwartz
2007-10-25  4:35       ` Arjan van de Ven
2007-10-25 18:45         ` Måns Rullgård
2007-10-25  4:47       ` Nick Piggin
2007-10-25  9:40         ` Samuel Tardieu
2007-10-25  9:44         ` Samuel Tardieu
2007-10-25  9:54           ` Samuel Tardieu
2007-10-25  9:55           ` Andi Kleen
2007-10-25  7:15 ` Andi Kleen
2007-10-25 11:58   ` linux-os (Dick Johnson)
2007-10-25 12:16     ` Andi Kleen
2007-10-25 22:49   ` Nick Piggin
2007-10-25 23:09     ` Andi Kleen
2007-10-25 23:14       ` Linus Torvalds
2007-10-25 23:16         ` Andi Kleen
2007-10-25 23:32           ` Linus Torvalds
2007-10-25 23:42             ` Andi Kleen
2007-10-25 23:57               ` Linus Torvalds
2007-10-26  1:15                 ` Zachary Amsden
2007-10-26  4:57               ` Willy Tarreau
2007-10-25 23:43       ` Nick Piggin
2007-10-25 23:55         ` Andi Kleen
2007-10-25 23:57           ` Nick Piggin
2007-10-25 14:55 ` Linus Torvalds
2007-10-25 15:12   ` Pekka Enberg
2007-10-25 21:42   ` David Schwartz
2007-10-25 23:22     ` Nick Piggin
2007-10-26 11:59       ` Andrew Haley
2007-10-26 17:39         ` Chris Friesen
2007-10-26 11:59       ` Andrew Haley
2007-10-25 22:26   ` Ismail Dönmez
2007-10-25 22:56     ` Jeff Garzik
2007-10-25 23:04       ` Jeff Garzik
2007-10-31 22:10 ` Phillip Susi

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