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From: Andi Kleen <andi@firstfloor.org>
To: Stephane Eranian <eranian@hpl.hp.com>
Cc: Andi Kleen <andi@firstfloor.org>,
	akpm@osdl.org, Robert Richter <robert.richter@amd.com>,
	gregkh@suse.de, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	William Cohen <wcohen@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: [perfmon] Re: [perfmon2] perfmon2 merge news
Date: Wed, 14 Nov 2007 03:07:02 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20071114020702.GB20365@one.firstfloor.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20071113225848.GK5747@frankl.hpl.hp.com>


[dropped all these bouncing email lists. Adding closed lists to public
cc lists is just a bad idea]

> int
> main(int argc, char **argv)
> {
> 	int ctx_fd;
> 	pfarg_pmd_t pd[1];
> 	pfarg_pmc_t pc[1];
> 	pfarg_ctx_t ctx;
> 	pfarg_load_t load_args;
> 
> 	memset(&ctx, 0, sizeof(ctx));
> 	memset(pc, 0, sizeof(pc));
> 	memset(pd, 0, sizeof(pd));
> 
> 	/* create session (context) and get file descriptor back (identifier) */
> 	ctx_fd = pfm_create_context(&ctx, NULL, NULL, 0);

There's nothing in your example that makes the file descriptor needed.

> 
> 	/* setup one config register (PMC0) */
> 	pc[0].reg_num   = 0
> 	pc[0].reg_value = 0x1234;

That would be nicer if it was just two arguments.

> 
> 	/* setup one data register (PMD0) */
> 	pd[0].reg_num = 0;
> 	pd[0].reg_value = 0;

Why do you need to set the data register? Wouldn't it make
more sense to let the kernel handle that and just return one.

> 
> 	/* program the registers */
> 	pfm_write_pmcs(ctx_fd, pc, 1);
> 	pfm_write_pmds(ctx_fd, pd, 1);
> 
> 	/* attach the context to self */
> 	load_args.load_pid = getpid();
> 	pfm_load_context(ctx_fd, &load_args);

My replacement would be to just add a flags argument to write_pmcs 
with one flag bit meaning "GLOBAL CONTEXT" versus "MY CONTEXT"
> 
> 	/* activate monitoring */
> 	pfm_start(ctx_fd, NULL);

Why can't that be done by the call setting up the register?

Or if someone needs to do it for a specific region they can read
the register before and then afterwards.

> 
> 	/*
> 	 * run code to measure
> 	 */
> 
> 	/* stop monitoring */
> 	pfm_stop(ctx_fd);
> 
> 	/* read data register */
> 	pfm_read_pmds(ctx_fd, pd, 1);

On x86 i think it would be much simpler to just let the set/alloc
register call return a number and then use RDPMC directly. That would
be actually faster and be much simpler too.

I suppose most architectures have similar facilities, if not a call could be 
added for them but it's not really essential. The call might be also needed
for event multiplexing, but frankly I would just leave that out for now.

e.g. here is one use case I would personally see as useful. We need
a replacement for simple cycle counting since RDTSC doesn't do that anymore
on modern x86 CPUs.  It could be something like:

	/* 0 is the initial value */

	/* could be either library or syscall */
	event = get_event(COUNTER_CYCLES); 
	if (event < 0) 
		/* CPU has no cycle counter */

	reg = setup_perfctr(event, 0 /* value */, LOCAL_EVENT); /* syscall */

	rdpmc(reg, start);
	.... some code to run ...
	rdpmc(reg, end);

	free_perfctr(reg);	/* syscall */

On other architectures rdpmc would be different of course, but 
the rest could be probably similar.

-Andi


  reply	other threads:[~2007-11-14  2:11 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 116+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2007-11-07  0:34 [PATCH] fix up perfmon to build on -mm Greg KH
2007-11-07 10:34 ` Stephane Eranian
2007-11-07 17:07   ` Greg KH
2007-11-07 13:42 ` Stephane Eranian
2007-11-07 17:08   ` Greg KH
2007-11-07 17:33     ` Andrew Morton
2007-11-07 17:41       ` Greg KH
2007-11-07 17:50     ` Stephane Eranian
2007-11-07 17:47   ` Greg KH
2007-11-07 17:57     ` Stephane Eranian
2007-11-07 19:53       ` Greg KH
2007-11-07 20:39         ` Stephane Eranian
2007-11-08 15:27         ` Stephane Eranian
2007-11-09 20:06 ` Andrew Morton
2007-11-09 21:38   ` Greg KH
2007-11-10 20:32     ` Andi Kleen
2007-11-13 15:17       ` perfmon2 merge news Robert Richter
2007-11-13 15:35         ` [perfmon2] " William Cohen
2007-11-13 17:55           ` Stephane Eranian
2007-11-13 18:33             ` [perfmon] " William Cohen
2007-11-13 21:13               ` Stephane Eranian
2007-11-13 21:29                 ` Andi Kleen
2007-11-13 21:46                   ` Stephane Eranian
2007-11-13 21:50                     ` Andi Kleen
2007-11-13 22:22                       ` Stephane Eranian
2007-11-13 22:25                         ` Andi Kleen
2007-11-13 22:58                           ` Stephane Eranian
2007-11-14  2:07                             ` Andi Kleen [this message]
2007-11-14 13:09                               ` Stephane Eranian
2007-11-14 14:24                                 ` Andi Kleen
2007-11-14 15:44                                   ` William Cohen
2007-11-14 16:13                                     ` Stephane Eranian
2007-11-14 18:53                                     ` Philippe Elie
2007-11-14 19:15                                       ` Andi Kleen
2007-11-15  0:07                                   ` Stephane Eranian
2007-11-13 18:47             ` Philip Mucci
2007-11-13 18:59               ` Greg KH
2007-11-13 20:07                 ` Andrew Morton
2007-11-13 20:14                   ` Greg KH
2007-11-13 20:36                   ` Andi Kleen
2007-11-14  0:28                     ` Philip Mucci
2007-11-14  1:52                       ` Andi Kleen
2007-11-16  9:18                         ` Philip Mucci
2007-11-16 15:15                           ` Andi Kleen
2007-11-16 16:00                             ` Stephane Eranian
2007-11-16 16:28                               ` Andi Kleen
2007-11-16 17:13                                 ` William Cohen
2007-11-16 21:56                                   ` Stephane Eranian
2007-11-16 17:36                                 ` Stephane Eranian
2007-11-16 17:51                             ` dean gaudet
2007-11-17  0:29                               ` David Miller
2007-11-17  1:07                                 ` Greg KH
2007-11-16 20:16                             ` Philip Mucci
2007-11-17  0:15                             ` David Miller
     [not found]                             ` <1d7226b10711161713j675341b7wdb4f050c59a8be0a@mail.gmail.com>
2007-11-17  1:25                               ` Greg KH
     [not found]                                 ` <1d7226b10711161748n39b7f195q796d85282ef66134@mail.gmail.com>
2007-11-17  2:13                                   ` Greg KH
2007-11-14  7:24                   ` [perfmon] Re: [perfmon2] " Paul Mackerras
2007-11-14  7:40                     ` Andrew Morton
2007-11-14 10:38                     ` Christoph Hellwig
2007-11-14 10:43                       ` Paul Mackerras
2007-11-14 11:00                         ` Christoph Hellwig
2007-11-14 11:12                           ` David Miller
2007-11-14 11:14                             ` David Miller
2007-11-14 11:44                             ` Paul Mackerras
2007-11-13 23:49                               ` Nick Piggin
2007-11-14 11:58                                 ` David Miller
2007-11-14  0:25                                   ` Nick Piggin
2007-11-14 21:30                                     ` Paul Mackerras
2007-11-14 10:17                                       ` Nick Piggin
2007-11-14 22:56                                         ` Chuck Ebbert
2007-11-14 11:03                                           ` Nick Piggin
2007-11-14 11:52                               ` David Miller
2007-11-14 12:03                                 ` Paul Mackerras
2007-11-14 12:07                                   ` David Miller
2007-11-14  0:28                                     ` Nick Piggin
2007-11-14 21:50                                     ` Paul Mackerras
2007-11-14 23:03                                       ` David Miller
2007-11-14 23:12                                         ` Paul Mackerras
2007-11-14 23:21                                           ` David Miller
2007-11-15  1:11                                             ` Paul Mackerras
2007-11-15  1:27                                               ` David Miller
2007-11-15  2:34                                                 ` Paul Mackerras
2007-11-15  7:48                                                   ` Herbert Xu
2007-11-15  8:19                                                     ` Andi Kleen
2007-11-19 13:08                                                 ` David Miller
2007-11-19 20:53                                                   ` Stephane Eranian
2007-11-20  0:55                                                     ` David Miller
2007-11-19 21:43                                                   ` Paul Mackerras
2007-11-19 22:48                                                     ` Stephane Eranian
2007-11-20  0:53                                                       ` David Miller
2007-12-13 16:00                                                         ` Stephane Eranian
2007-12-14 19:12                                                           ` Frank Ch. Eigler
2007-12-14 21:07                                                             ` Stephane Eranian
2007-12-15 15:54                                                               ` Frank Ch. Eigler
2007-11-15  8:29                                               ` [perfmon] " Stephane Eranian
2007-11-14 13:51                               ` Stephane Eranian
2007-11-14 11:39                           ` Paul Mackerras
2007-11-14 11:52                             ` David Miller
2007-11-14 13:47                             ` Stephane Eranian
2007-11-14 12:38                           ` Andi Kleen
2007-11-14 14:13                             ` Stephane Eranian
2007-11-14 14:26                               ` Andi Kleen
2007-11-15  0:23                                 ` Paul Mackerras
2007-11-14 19:48                             ` David Miller
2007-11-15  4:20                             ` dean gaudet
2007-11-15  4:47                               ` Paul Mackerras
2007-11-15  5:14                                 ` dean gaudet
2007-11-15  8:53                               ` Stephane Eranian
2007-11-15 17:01                               ` [perfmon2] [perfmon] " Dan Terpstra
2007-11-13 21:33                 ` [perfmon] Re: [perfmon2] " Stephane Eranian
2007-11-13 21:45                   ` Greg KH
2007-11-13 22:27               ` Christoph Hellwig
2007-11-13 20:42           ` Andi Kleen
2007-11-13 18:32         ` Stephane Eranian
2007-11-13 22:29           ` Christoph Hellwig
2007-11-16 18:25           ` PMC core internal API design Mathieu Desnoyers

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