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From: Micah Dowty <micah@vmware.com>
To: David Newall <david@davidnewall.com>
Cc: Kyle Moffett <mrmacman_g4@mac.com>,
	Cyrus Massoumi <cyrusm@gmx.net>,
	LKML Kernel <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>, Andrew Morton <akpm@osdl.org>,
	Mike Galbraith <efault@gmx.de>, Paul Menage <menage@google.com>,
	Christoph Lameter <clameter@sgi.com>
Subject: Re: High priority tasks break SMP balancer?
Date: Fri, 16 Nov 2007 13:38:40 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20071116213840.GA31527@vmware.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <473DEBDD.2010706@davidnewall.com>

On Sat, Nov 17, 2007 at 05:43:33AM +1030, David Newall wrote:
> There are a couple of points I would make about your python test harness.  
> Your program compares real+system jiffies for both cpus; an ideal result 
> would be 1.00.  The measurement is taken over a relatively short period of 
> approximately a half-second, and you kill the CPU hogs before taking final 
> measurements, even wait for them to die first.  You repeat this 
> measurement, starting and killing CPU hogs each time.  Why do you do that?

The Python test harness is fairly artificial, but this is just the
best way I found to reliably reproduce the problem in a short amount
of time. It was just for convenience while running git-bisect. When
running the C program directly, there seems to be a somewhat random
chance that it will start up in the "bad" state. Once the single CPU
is stuck in this mostly-idle mode, it seems to stay that way for a
while.

> What happens if you start the hogs and take the baseline outside of the 
> loop?

The problem still occurs then, but killing/restarting the test app
seems to trigger the problem more reliably. As I said in the original
email about this, left to its own devices this problem will occur
seemingly-randomly. In the original VMware code I observed this
problem in, the same process would flip between the "good" and "bad"
states seemingly randomly, every few seconds.

Thanks,
--Micah


      reply	other threads:[~2007-11-16 21:39 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 35+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2007-11-09 22:34 Micah Dowty
2007-11-09 23:56 ` Cyrus Massoumi
2007-11-10  0:11   ` Micah Dowty
2007-11-14 18:39     ` Micah Dowty
2007-11-15 18:48     ` Kyle Moffett
2007-11-15 19:14       ` Micah Dowty
2007-11-15 20:07         ` Christoph Lameter
2007-11-15 20:24           ` Micah Dowty
2007-11-15 21:28             ` Christoph Lameter
2007-11-15 21:35               ` Micah Dowty
2007-11-16  2:31                 ` Christoph Lameter
2007-11-16  2:44                   ` Micah Dowty
2007-11-16  6:07                     ` Ingo Molnar
2007-11-16  9:19                       ` Micah Dowty
2007-11-16 10:45                         ` Ingo Molnar
2007-11-16 10:48                       ` Micah Dowty
2007-11-16 22:12                         ` Christoph Lameter
2007-11-16 10:48                       ` Dmitry Adamushko
2007-11-16 22:14                         ` Micah Dowty
2007-11-16 23:26                           ` Dmitry Adamushko
2007-11-17  1:03                             ` Micah Dowty
2007-11-17 19:10                               ` Dmitry Adamushko
2007-11-19 18:51                                 ` Micah Dowty
2007-11-19 22:22                                   ` Dmitry Adamushko
2007-11-19 23:05                                     ` Micah Dowty
2007-11-20  5:57                                       ` Ingo Molnar
2007-11-20 18:06                                         ` Micah Dowty
2007-11-20 21:47                                           ` Dmitry Adamushko
2007-11-22  7:46                                             ` Micah Dowty
2007-11-22 12:53                                               ` Dmitry Adamushko
2007-11-26 19:44                                                 ` Micah Dowty
2007-11-27  9:21                                                   ` Dmitry Adamushko
2007-11-27 17:13                                                     ` Micah Dowty
2007-11-16 19:13         ` David Newall
2007-11-16 21:38           ` Micah Dowty [this message]

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