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From: "Dmitry Adamushko" <dmitry.adamushko@gmail.com>
To: "Micah Dowty" <micah@vmware.com>
Cc: "Ingo Molnar" <mingo@elte.hu>,
	"Christoph Lameter" <clameter@sgi.com>,
	"Kyle Moffett" <mrmacman_g4@mac.com>,
	"Cyrus Massoumi" <cyrusm@gmx.net>,
	"LKML Kernel" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	"Andrew Morton" <akpm@osdl.org>, "Mike Galbraith" <efault@gmx.de>,
	"Paul Menage" <menage@google.com>,
	"Peter Williams" <pwil3058@bigpond.net.au>
Subject: Re: High priority tasks break SMP balancer?
Date: Sat, 17 Nov 2007 00:26:41 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <b647ffbd0711161526p2faf5abt2457084f1996c735@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20071116221404.GC31527@vmware.com>

On 16/11/2007, Micah Dowty <micah@vmware.com> wrote:
> [ ... ]
> > or just remove bit #3 (which is responsible for 8 == 1000) here:
> >
> > cat /proc/sys/kernel/sched_features
> >
> > (this one is enabled by default in 2.6.23.1)
>
> Aha. Turning off bit 3 appears to instantly fix my problem while it's
> occurring in an existing process, and I can't reproduce it on any new
> processes afterward.

humm... ok, but considering your recent summary for various kernels...
I guess, it doesn't qualify as the primary suspect... it just likely
affects something else.

>
> > cpu_1 : 2-3 nice(0) cpu-hog tasks ;
> >
> > both cpus may be seen with similar rq->load_cpu[]...
>
> When I try this, cpu0 has a cpu_load[] of over 10000 and cpu1 has a
> load of 2048 or so.

yeah, one of the options for 2048 would be presence of 2 nice(0)
cpu-hogs (1024 is the weight for a nice(0) task).


> > yeah, one would
> > argue that one of the cpu hogs could be migrated to cpu_0 and consume
> > remaining 'time slots' and it would not "disturb" the nice(-20) task
> > as :
> > it's able to preempt the lower prio task whenever it want (provided,
> > fine-grained kernel preemption) and we don't care that much of
> > trashing of caches here.
>
> Yes, that's the behaviour I expected to see (and what my application
> would prefer).

yep, that's what load_balance_newidle() is about... so maybe there are
some factors resulting in its inconsistency/behavioral differences on
different kernels.

Let's say we change a pattern for the niced task: e.g. run for 100 ms.
and then sleep for 300 ms. (that's ~25% of cpu load) in the loop. Any
behavioral changes?


>
> Thanks much,
> --Micah
>

-- 
Best regards,
Dmitry Adamushko

  reply	other threads:[~2007-11-16 23:27 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 35+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2007-11-09 22:34 Micah Dowty
2007-11-09 23:56 ` Cyrus Massoumi
2007-11-10  0:11   ` Micah Dowty
2007-11-14 18:39     ` Micah Dowty
2007-11-15 18:48     ` Kyle Moffett
2007-11-15 19:14       ` Micah Dowty
2007-11-15 20:07         ` Christoph Lameter
2007-11-15 20:24           ` Micah Dowty
2007-11-15 21:28             ` Christoph Lameter
2007-11-15 21:35               ` Micah Dowty
2007-11-16  2:31                 ` Christoph Lameter
2007-11-16  2:44                   ` Micah Dowty
2007-11-16  6:07                     ` Ingo Molnar
2007-11-16  9:19                       ` Micah Dowty
2007-11-16 10:45                         ` Ingo Molnar
2007-11-16 10:48                       ` Micah Dowty
2007-11-16 22:12                         ` Christoph Lameter
2007-11-16 10:48                       ` Dmitry Adamushko
2007-11-16 22:14                         ` Micah Dowty
2007-11-16 23:26                           ` Dmitry Adamushko [this message]
2007-11-17  1:03                             ` Micah Dowty
2007-11-17 19:10                               ` Dmitry Adamushko
2007-11-19 18:51                                 ` Micah Dowty
2007-11-19 22:22                                   ` Dmitry Adamushko
2007-11-19 23:05                                     ` Micah Dowty
2007-11-20  5:57                                       ` Ingo Molnar
2007-11-20 18:06                                         ` Micah Dowty
2007-11-20 21:47                                           ` Dmitry Adamushko
2007-11-22  7:46                                             ` Micah Dowty
2007-11-22 12:53                                               ` Dmitry Adamushko
2007-11-26 19:44                                                 ` Micah Dowty
2007-11-27  9:21                                                   ` Dmitry Adamushko
2007-11-27 17:13                                                     ` Micah Dowty
2007-11-16 19:13         ` David Newall
2007-11-16 21:38           ` Micah Dowty

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