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From: lsorense@csclub.uwaterloo.ca (Lennart Sorensen)
To: "J.A. Magall??n" <jamagallon@ono.com>
Cc: Lo??c Greni?? <loic.grenie@gmail.com>,
	Ben.Crowhurst@stellatravel.co.uk, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: Kernel Development & Objective-C
Date: Tue, 4 Dec 2007 12:54:13 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20071204175413.GD2310@csclub.uwaterloo.ca> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20071201001950.11100a32@werewolf>

On Sat, Dec 01, 2007 at 12:19:50AM +0100, J.A. Magall??n wrote:
> I think BeOS was C++ and OSX is C+ObjectiveC (and runs on an iPhone).
> Original MacOS (fron 6 to 9) was Pascal (and a mac SE was very near
> to embedded hardware :) ).
> 
> I do not advocate to rewrite Linux in C++, but don't say a kernel written
> in C++ can not be efficient.

Well I am pretty sure the micro kernel of OS X is in C, and certainly
the BSD layer is as well.  So the only ObjC part would be the nextstep
framework and other parts of the Mac GUI and other Mac APIs they
provide, which all at some point probably end up calling down into the C
stuff below.

> C++ (and for what I read on other answer, nor ObjectiveC) has no garbage
> collection. It does not anything you did not it to do. It just allows
> you to change this
> 
> 	struct buffer *x;
> 	x = kmalloc(...)
> 	x->sz = 128
> 	x->buff = kmalloc(...)
> 	...
> 	kfree(x->buff)
> 	kfree(x)
> 	
> to
> 	struct buffer *x;
> 	x = new buffer(128); (that does itself allocates x->buff,
>                               because _you_ programmed it,
>                               so you poor programmer don't forget)
>         ...
> 	delete x;            (that also was programmed to deallocate
>                               x->buff itself, sou you have one less
>                               memory leak to worry about)

But kmalloc is implemented by the kernel.  Who implements 'new'?

--
Len Sorensen

  parent reply	other threads:[~2007-12-04 17:54 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 57+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2007-11-29 12:14 Ben Crowhurst
2007-11-30 10:02 ` Xavier Bestel
2007-11-30 10:09   ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2007-11-30 10:20     ` Xavier Bestel
2007-11-30 10:54       ` Jan Engelhardt
2007-11-30 14:21         ` David Newall
2007-11-30 23:31           ` Bill Davidsen
2007-11-30 23:40             ` Alan Cox
2007-12-01  0:05               ` Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo
2007-12-01 18:27               ` Bill Davidsen
2007-12-01 18:18                 ` Alan Cox
2007-12-03  1:23                   ` Bill Davidsen
2007-11-30 22:52     ` J.A. Magallón
2007-11-30 10:29 ` Loïc Grenié
2007-11-30 11:16   ` Ben Crowhurst
2007-11-30 11:36     ` Karol Swietlicki
2007-11-30 14:37     ` Lennart Sorensen
2007-12-08  8:54     ` Rogelio M. Serrano Jr.
2007-11-30 23:19   ` J.A. Magallón
2007-11-30 23:53     ` Nicholas Miell
2007-12-01  0:31     ` Al Viro
2007-12-01  0:34       ` Al Viro
2007-12-01  1:09       ` J.A. Magallón
2007-12-01 19:55       ` Avi Kivity
2007-12-04 17:54     ` Lennart Sorensen [this message]
2007-12-04 21:10       ` Avi Kivity
2007-12-04 21:24       ` J.A. Magallón
2007-11-30 11:37 ` Matti Aarnio
2007-11-30 14:34 ` Lennart Sorensen
2007-11-30 15:26   ` Kyle Moffett
2007-11-30 18:40     ` H. Peter Anvin
2007-11-30 19:35       ` Kyle Moffett
2007-12-01 20:03     ` Avi Kivity
2007-12-02 19:01       ` Andi Kleen
2007-12-03  5:12         ` Avi Kivity
2007-12-03  9:50           ` Andi Kleen
2007-12-03 11:46             ` Avi Kivity
2007-12-03 11:50               ` Andi Kleen
2007-12-03 21:13               ` Willy Tarreau
2007-12-03 21:39                 ` J.A. Magallón
2007-12-03 21:57                   ` Alan Cox
2007-12-04 21:47                     ` J.A. Magallón
2007-12-04 22:20                       ` Diego Calleja
2007-12-05 10:59                         ` Giacomo A. Catenazzi
2007-12-04 21:07                 ` Avi Kivity
2007-12-04 22:43                   ` Willy Tarreau
2007-12-05 17:05                     ` Micro vs macro optimizations (was: Re: Kernel Development & Objective-C) Avi Kivity
2007-12-03 12:35           ` Kernel Development & Objective-C Gilboa Davara
2007-12-03 12:44             ` Gilboa Davara
2007-12-03 16:28             ` Casey Schaufler
2007-12-04 17:50             ` Lennart Sorensen
2007-12-05 10:31               ` Gilboa Davara
2007-12-01 19:59   ` Avi Kivity
2007-12-02 19:44     ` Jörn Engel
2007-12-03 16:53     ` Lennart Sorensen
2007-11-30 15:00 ` Chris Snook
2007-12-01  9:50   ` David Newall

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