From: Ben Crowhurst <Ben.Crowhurst@stellatravel.co.uk>
To: loic.grenie@gmail.com
Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: Kernel Development & Objective-C
Date: Fri, 30 Nov 2007 11:16:14 +0000 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <474FF0FE.50208@stellatravel.co.uk> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <9b06e8d20711300229r1ed570bfi9ecbb6466fd0a0ab@mail.gmail.com>
Loïc Grenié wrote:
> 2007/11/29, Ben Crowhurst <Ben.Crowhurst@stellatravel.co.uk>:
>
>> Has Objective-C ever been considered for kernel development?
>>
>> regards,
>> BPC
>>
>
> No, it has not. Any language that looks remotely like an OO language
> has not ever been considered for (Linux) kernel development and for
> most, if not all, other operating systems kernels.
>
> Various problems occur in an object oriented language. One of them
> is garbage collection: it provokes asynchronous delays and, during
> an interrupt or a system call for a real time task, the kernel cannot
> wait.
Objective C 1.0 does not force nor have garbage collection.
> Another is memory overhead: all the magic that OO languages
> provide take space in memory and Linux kernel is used in embedded
> systems with very tight memory requirements.
>
But are embedded systems not rapidly moving on. Turning to stare at the
ADSL X6 modem with MB's of ram.
> Lots of people will think of better reasons why ObjC is not used...
>
> Loïc Grenié
>
>
>
Which I'm looking forward to hear :)
Thank you for your appropriate response.
--
Regards
BPC
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2007-11-30 11:18 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 57+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2007-11-29 12:14 Ben Crowhurst
2007-11-30 10:02 ` Xavier Bestel
2007-11-30 10:09 ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2007-11-30 10:20 ` Xavier Bestel
2007-11-30 10:54 ` Jan Engelhardt
2007-11-30 14:21 ` David Newall
2007-11-30 23:31 ` Bill Davidsen
2007-11-30 23:40 ` Alan Cox
2007-12-01 0:05 ` Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo
2007-12-01 18:27 ` Bill Davidsen
2007-12-01 18:18 ` Alan Cox
2007-12-03 1:23 ` Bill Davidsen
2007-11-30 22:52 ` J.A. Magallón
2007-11-30 10:29 ` Loïc Grenié
2007-11-30 11:16 ` Ben Crowhurst [this message]
2007-11-30 11:36 ` Karol Swietlicki
2007-11-30 14:37 ` Lennart Sorensen
2007-12-08 8:54 ` Rogelio M. Serrano Jr.
2007-11-30 23:19 ` J.A. Magallón
2007-11-30 23:53 ` Nicholas Miell
2007-12-01 0:31 ` Al Viro
2007-12-01 0:34 ` Al Viro
2007-12-01 1:09 ` J.A. Magallón
2007-12-01 19:55 ` Avi Kivity
2007-12-04 17:54 ` Lennart Sorensen
2007-12-04 21:10 ` Avi Kivity
2007-12-04 21:24 ` J.A. Magallón
2007-11-30 11:37 ` Matti Aarnio
2007-11-30 14:34 ` Lennart Sorensen
2007-11-30 15:26 ` Kyle Moffett
2007-11-30 18:40 ` H. Peter Anvin
2007-11-30 19:35 ` Kyle Moffett
2007-12-01 20:03 ` Avi Kivity
2007-12-02 19:01 ` Andi Kleen
2007-12-03 5:12 ` Avi Kivity
2007-12-03 9:50 ` Andi Kleen
2007-12-03 11:46 ` Avi Kivity
2007-12-03 11:50 ` Andi Kleen
2007-12-03 21:13 ` Willy Tarreau
2007-12-03 21:39 ` J.A. Magallón
2007-12-03 21:57 ` Alan Cox
2007-12-04 21:47 ` J.A. Magallón
2007-12-04 22:20 ` Diego Calleja
2007-12-05 10:59 ` Giacomo A. Catenazzi
2007-12-04 21:07 ` Avi Kivity
2007-12-04 22:43 ` Willy Tarreau
2007-12-05 17:05 ` Micro vs macro optimizations (was: Re: Kernel Development & Objective-C) Avi Kivity
2007-12-03 12:35 ` Kernel Development & Objective-C Gilboa Davara
2007-12-03 12:44 ` Gilboa Davara
2007-12-03 16:28 ` Casey Schaufler
2007-12-04 17:50 ` Lennart Sorensen
2007-12-05 10:31 ` Gilboa Davara
2007-12-01 19:59 ` Avi Kivity
2007-12-02 19:44 ` Jörn Engel
2007-12-03 16:53 ` Lennart Sorensen
2007-11-30 15:00 ` Chris Snook
2007-12-01 9:50 ` David Newall
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