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From: Al Boldi <a1426z@gawab.com>
To: Diego Calleja <diegocg@gmail.com>
Cc: linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	Jan Kara <jack@suse.cz>
Subject: Re: [RFC] ext3: per-process soft-syncing data=ordered mode
Date: Sat, 26 Jan 2008 08:27:43 +0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <200801260827.43284.a1426z@gawab.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20080124225026.55fc6c20.diegocg@gmail.com>

Diego Calleja wrote:
> El Thu, 24 Jan 2008 23:36:00 +0300, Al Boldi <a1426z@gawab.com> escribió:
> > Greetings!
> >
> > data=ordered mode has proven reliable over the years, and it does this
> > by ordering filedata flushes before metadata flushes.  But this
> > sometimes causes contention in the order of a 10x slowdown for certain
> > apps, either due to the misuse of fsync or due to inherent behaviour
> > like db's, as well as inherent starvation issues exposed by the
> > data=ordered mode.
>
> There's a related bug in bugzilla:
> http://bugzilla.kernel.org/show_bug.cgi?id=9546
>
> The diagnostic from Jan Kara is different though, but I think it may be
> the same problem...
>
> "One process does data-intensive load. Thus in the ordered mode the
> transaction is tiny but has tons of data buffers attached. If commit
> happens, it takes a long time to sync all the data before the commit
> can proceed... In the writeback mode, we don't wait for data buffers, in
> the journal mode amount of data to be written is really limited by the
> maximum size of a transaction and so we write by much smaller chunks
> and better latency is thus ensured."
>
>
> I'm hitting this bug too...it's surprising that there's not many people
> reporting more bugs about this, because it's really annoying.
>
>
> There's a patch by Jan Kara (that I'm including here because bugzilla
> didn't include it and took me a while to find it) which I don't know if
> it's supposed to fix the problem , but it'd be interesting to try:


Thanks a lot, but it doesn't fix it.

--
Al


  reply	other threads:[~2008-01-26  5:28 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 30+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2008-01-24 20:36 Al Boldi
2008-01-24 21:50 ` Diego Calleja
2008-01-26  5:27   ` Al Boldi [this message]
2008-01-28 17:34     ` Jan Kara
2008-01-24 21:58 ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2008-01-26  5:27   ` Al Boldi
2008-01-25  1:19 ` Chris Snook
2008-01-26  5:28   ` Al Boldi
2008-01-29 17:22     ` Jan Kara
2008-01-30  6:04       ` Al Boldi
2008-01-30 14:29         ` Chris Mason
2008-01-30 18:39           ` Al Boldi
2008-01-31  0:32           ` Andreas Dilger
2008-01-31  6:20             ` Al Boldi
2008-01-31 16:56               ` Chris Mason
2008-01-31 17:10                 ` Jan Kara
2008-01-31 17:14                   ` Chris Mason
2008-02-01 21:26                     ` Al Boldi
2008-02-04 17:54                       ` Jan Kara
2008-02-05  7:07                         ` Al Boldi
2008-02-05 15:07                           ` Jan Kara
2008-02-05 19:20                             ` Al Boldi
2008-01-25  6:47 ` Andreas Dilger
2008-01-25 21:57   ` david
2008-01-25 15:36 ` Jan Kara
2008-01-26  5:27   ` Al Boldi
2008-01-28 17:27     ` Jan Kara
2008-01-28 20:17       ` Al Boldi
2008-02-07  0:00     ` Andreas Dilger
2008-02-10 14:54       ` Al Boldi

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