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From: Al Boldi <a1426z@gawab.com>
To: Andreas Dilger <adilger@sun.com>
Cc: Chris Mason <chris.mason@oracle.com>, Jan Kara <jack@suse.cz>,
	Chris Snook <csnook@redhat.com>,
	linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [RFC] ext3: per-process soft-syncing data=ordered mode
Date: Thu, 31 Jan 2008 09:20:36 +0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <200801310920.36383.a1426z@gawab.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20080131003231.GK23836@webber.adilger.int>

Andreas Dilger wrote:
> On Wednesday 30 January 2008, Al Boldi wrote:
> > And, a quick test of successive 1sec delayed syncs shows no hangs until
> > about 1 minute (~180mb) of db-writeout activity, when the sync abruptly
> > hangs for minutes on end, and io-wait shows almost 100%.
>
> How large is the journal in this filesystem?  You can check via
> "debugfs -R 'stat <8>' /dev/XXX".

32mb.

> Is this affected by increasing
> the journal size?  You can set the journal size via "mke2fs -J size=400"
> at format time, or on an unmounted filesystem by running
> "tune2fs -O ^has_journal /dev/XXX" then "tune2fs -J size=400 /dev/XXX".

Setting size=400 doesn't help, nor does size=4.

> I suspect that the stall is caused by the journal filling up, and then
> waiting while the entire journal is checkpointed back to the filesystem
> before the next transaction can start.
>
> It is possible to improve this behaviour in JBD by reducing the amount
> of space that is cleared if the journal becomes "full", and also doing
> journal checkpointing before it becomes full.  While that may reduce
> performance a small amount, it would help avoid such huge latency
> problems. I believe we have such a patch in one of the Lustre branches
> already, and while I'm not sure what kernel it is for the JBD code rarely
> changes much....

The big difference between ordered and writeback is that once the slowdown 
starts, ordered goes into ~100% iowait, whereas writeback continues 100% 
user.


Thanks!

--
Al


  reply	other threads:[~2008-01-31  6:23 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 30+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2008-01-24 20:36 Al Boldi
2008-01-24 21:50 ` Diego Calleja
2008-01-26  5:27   ` Al Boldi
2008-01-28 17:34     ` Jan Kara
2008-01-24 21:58 ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2008-01-26  5:27   ` Al Boldi
2008-01-25  1:19 ` Chris Snook
2008-01-26  5:28   ` Al Boldi
2008-01-29 17:22     ` Jan Kara
2008-01-30  6:04       ` Al Boldi
2008-01-30 14:29         ` Chris Mason
2008-01-30 18:39           ` Al Boldi
2008-01-31  0:32           ` Andreas Dilger
2008-01-31  6:20             ` Al Boldi [this message]
2008-01-31 16:56               ` Chris Mason
2008-01-31 17:10                 ` Jan Kara
2008-01-31 17:14                   ` Chris Mason
2008-02-01 21:26                     ` Al Boldi
2008-02-04 17:54                       ` Jan Kara
2008-02-05  7:07                         ` Al Boldi
2008-02-05 15:07                           ` Jan Kara
2008-02-05 19:20                             ` Al Boldi
2008-01-25  6:47 ` Andreas Dilger
2008-01-25 21:57   ` david
2008-01-25 15:36 ` Jan Kara
2008-01-26  5:27   ` Al Boldi
2008-01-28 17:27     ` Jan Kara
2008-01-28 20:17       ` Al Boldi
2008-02-07  0:00     ` Andreas Dilger
2008-02-10 14:54       ` Al Boldi

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