From: Al Boldi <a1426z@gawab.com>
To: Jan Kara <jack@suse.cz>
Cc: linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [RFC] ext3: per-process soft-syncing data=ordered mode
Date: Sat, 26 Jan 2008 08:27:59 +0300 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <200801260827.59675.a1426z@gawab.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20080125153634.GG28856@atrey.karlin.mff.cuni.cz>
Jan Kara wrote:
> > Greetings!
> >
> > data=ordered mode has proven reliable over the years, and it does this
> > by ordering filedata flushes before metadata flushes. But this
> > sometimes causes contention in the order of a 10x slowdown for certain
> > apps, either due to the misuse of fsync or due to inherent behaviour
> > like db's, as well as inherent starvation issues exposed by the
> > data=ordered mode.
> >
> > data=writeback mode alleviates data=order mode slowdowns, but only works
> > per-mount and is too dangerous to run as a default mode.
> >
> > This RFC proposes to introduce a tunable which allows to disable fsync
> > and changes ordered into writeback writeout on a per-process basis like
> > this:
> >
> > echo 1 > /proc/`pidof process`/softsync
>
> I guess disabling fsync() was already commented on enough. Regarding
> switching to writeback mode on per-process basis - not easily possible
> because sometimes data is not written out by the process which stored
> them (think of mmaped file).
Do you mean there is a locking problem?
> And in case of DB, they use direct-io
> anyway most of the time so they don't care about journaling mode anyway.
Testing with sqlite3 and mysql4 shows that performance drastically improves
with writeback writeout.
> But as Diego wrote, there is definitely some room for improvement in
> current data=ordered mode so the difference shouldn't be as big in the
> end.
Yes, it would be nice to get to the bottom of this starvation problem, but
even then, the proposed tunable remains useful for misbehaving apps.
Thanks!
--
Al
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2008-01-26 5:28 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 30+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2008-01-24 20:36 Al Boldi
2008-01-24 21:50 ` Diego Calleja
2008-01-26 5:27 ` Al Boldi
2008-01-28 17:34 ` Jan Kara
2008-01-24 21:58 ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2008-01-26 5:27 ` Al Boldi
2008-01-25 1:19 ` Chris Snook
2008-01-26 5:28 ` Al Boldi
2008-01-29 17:22 ` Jan Kara
2008-01-30 6:04 ` Al Boldi
2008-01-30 14:29 ` Chris Mason
2008-01-30 18:39 ` Al Boldi
2008-01-31 0:32 ` Andreas Dilger
2008-01-31 6:20 ` Al Boldi
2008-01-31 16:56 ` Chris Mason
2008-01-31 17:10 ` Jan Kara
2008-01-31 17:14 ` Chris Mason
2008-02-01 21:26 ` Al Boldi
2008-02-04 17:54 ` Jan Kara
2008-02-05 7:07 ` Al Boldi
2008-02-05 15:07 ` Jan Kara
2008-02-05 19:20 ` Al Boldi
2008-01-25 6:47 ` Andreas Dilger
2008-01-25 21:57 ` david
2008-01-25 15:36 ` Jan Kara
2008-01-26 5:27 ` Al Boldi [this message]
2008-01-28 17:27 ` Jan Kara
2008-01-28 20:17 ` Al Boldi
2008-02-07 0:00 ` Andreas Dilger
2008-02-10 14:54 ` Al Boldi
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