From: David Miller <davem@davemloft.net>
To: lkml@rtr.ca
Cc: jesper.juhl@gmail.com, tilman@imap.cc, yoshfuji@linux-ipv6.org,
jeff@garzik.org, rjw@sisk.pl, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
netdev@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: 2.6.25-rc8: FTP transfer errors
Date: Thu, 10 Apr 2008 17:39:11 -0700 (PDT) [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20080410.173911.179180620.davem@davemloft.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <47FEB062.3020003@rtr.ca>
From: Mark Lord <lkml@rtr.ca>
Date: Thu, 10 Apr 2008 20:27:14 -0400
> It's *your* bug -- you signed off on the commit.
I sign off on basically every networking commit, does that mean I have
to fix every networking bug and every networking bug is "mine"?
Of course not, that doesn't scale at all. What does scale is a
combination of good fully formed bug reports from users combined with
the efforts of the global developer pool.
Linus signs off on every patch from Andrew Morton he puts into the
tree, which is a lot, but does Linus work on every bug introduced by
one of those patches and are such bugs "his" bugs? Of course he
doesn't, and of course not. They get pushed up to the person
who wrote the patch once identified as such, and the patch is
reverted if the developer is unresponsive and this will have
consequences for patches they submit in the future.
I still think you have a very self-centered attitude about things.
This is about distributing effort, not forcing it upon individuals
or a constrained resource.
If I get hit by a bus, networking bugs would still get fixed if
handled properly.
And it's a win-win situation. The incentive for a capable user to do
a bisect or whatever else is that if they do it their bug gets fixed
quickly. That is the free market economy of Linux kernel bug
reporting.
It addresses the issue that in reality we'll never fix all bugs, and
therefore we prioritize. And therefore if there is a bisected bug
report and also another one from a user who refuses to do that, guess
which bug gets worked on with a higher priority and which bug gets
fixed first?
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2008-04-11 0:39 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 158+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2008-04-08 23:02 [Bug #10391] 2.6.25-rc7/8: Another resume regression Rafael J. Wysocki
2008-04-09 4:49 ` Mark Lord
2008-04-09 4:56 ` 2.6.25-rc8: FTP transfer errors Mark Lord
2008-04-09 13:37 ` Mark Lord
2008-04-09 14:06 ` Regression: " Mark Lord
2008-04-09 16:46 ` Jeff Garzik
2008-04-09 17:16 ` Mark Lord
2008-04-09 17:27 ` Regression: " Mark Lord
2008-04-09 17:30 ` YOSHIFUJI Hideaki / 吉藤英明
2008-04-09 19:05 ` Mark Lord
2008-04-09 19:08 ` Jeff Garzik
2008-04-09 22:29 ` David Miller
2008-04-10 0:02 ` Mark Lord
2008-04-10 0:37 ` Harvey Harrison
2008-04-10 13:52 ` Gerhard Mack
2008-04-10 15:15 ` Mark Lord
2008-04-10 15:58 ` Gerhard Mack
2008-04-10 1:22 ` David Miller
2008-04-10 15:07 ` Mark Lord
2008-04-10 15:20 ` Tilman Schmidt
2008-04-10 22:09 ` Jesper Juhl
2008-04-10 22:46 ` David Miller
2008-04-10 22:52 ` Charlie Brady
2008-04-10 23:02 ` Jesper Juhl
2008-04-10 23:05 ` David Miller
2008-04-10 23:10 ` vincent-perrier
2008-04-10 23:14 ` David Miller
2008-04-10 23:32 ` vincent-perrier
2008-04-10 23:41 ` David Miller
2008-04-10 23:51 ` vincent-perrier
2008-04-10 23:39 ` Jesper Juhl
2008-04-11 0:16 ` Mark Lord
2008-04-11 0:24 ` David Miller
2008-04-11 0:27 ` Mark Lord
2008-04-11 0:39 ` David Miller [this message]
2008-04-11 1:23 ` Mark Lord
2008-04-11 6:40 ` Ilpo Järvinen
2008-04-11 13:19 ` Mark Lord
2008-04-11 14:35 ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2008-04-11 14:59 ` Mark Lord
2008-04-11 15:18 ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2008-04-11 18:07 ` David Miller
2008-04-11 21:29 ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2008-04-12 8:44 ` Willy Tarreau
2008-04-12 9:49 ` David Miller
2008-04-13 18:15 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2008-04-13 18:51 ` Sergio Luis
2008-04-13 19:24 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2008-04-11 19:58 ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2008-04-11 22:16 ` Tilman Schmidt
2008-04-11 22:25 ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2008-04-11 22:27 ` David Miller
2008-04-11 23:23 ` Tilman Schmidt
2008-04-12 5:37 ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2008-04-12 7:06 ` Ilpo Järvinen
2008-04-11 22:26 ` David Miller
2008-04-11 19:58 ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2008-04-11 22:27 ` Tilman Schmidt
2008-04-13 18:40 ` Reporting bugs and bisection (was: Re: 2.6.25-rc8: FTP transfer errors) Rafael J. Wysocki
2008-04-13 18:47 ` Willy Tarreau
2008-04-13 19:18 ` Andrew Morton
2008-04-13 19:27 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2008-04-13 19:47 ` Reporting bugs and bisection David Miller
2008-04-13 20:21 ` Reporting bugs and bisection (was: Re: 2.6.25-rc8: FTP transfer errors) Evgeniy Polyakov
2008-04-13 20:33 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2008-04-13 20:54 ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2008-04-13 22:24 ` Reporting bugs and bisection Stephen Clark
2008-04-13 22:41 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2008-04-13 23:51 ` david
2008-04-14 0:36 ` Jakub Narebski
2008-04-14 4:39 ` Willy Tarreau
2008-04-14 5:39 ` Al Viro
2008-04-14 6:24 ` Andrew Morton
2008-04-14 6:39 ` David Miller
2008-04-14 6:43 ` David Miller
2008-04-14 7:23 ` Al Viro
2008-04-14 7:43 ` Al Viro
2008-04-14 8:04 ` Andrew Morton
2008-04-14 8:30 ` David Miller
2008-04-14 9:06 ` Christoph Hellwig
2008-04-14 9:46 ` Andi Kleen
2008-04-15 5:25 ` Bill Fink
2008-04-14 10:15 ` Andrew Morton
2008-04-14 10:41 ` David Miller
2008-04-14 17:35 ` Roman Shaposhnik
2008-04-14 12:08 ` Adrian Bunk
2008-04-14 14:43 ` Arjan van de Ven
2008-04-14 17:51 ` Andrew Morton
2008-04-14 18:24 ` Arjan van de Ven
2008-04-14 19:30 ` Ilpo Järvinen
2008-04-14 15:54 ` James Morris
2008-04-14 22:01 ` David Miller
2008-04-14 23:05 ` Andrew Morton
2008-04-15 4:55 ` Willy Tarreau
2008-04-15 13:18 ` Work WAS(Re: " jamal
2008-04-15 9:33 ` David Newall
2008-04-15 9:54 ` Michael Kerrisk
2008-04-15 14:04 ` David Newall
2008-04-15 20:51 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2008-04-16 2:34 ` David Newall
2008-04-16 3:53 ` david
2008-04-16 9:06 ` David Newall
2008-04-16 11:02 ` Andi Kleen
2008-04-16 12:41 ` Stephen Clark
2008-04-16 4:29 ` Willy Tarreau
2008-04-16 12:13 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2008-04-16 12:15 ` Sverre Rabbelier
2008-04-16 13:26 ` Adrian Bunk
2008-04-16 19:02 ` Andrew Morton
2008-04-16 19:43 ` Sverre Rabbelier
2008-04-16 19:55 ` Adrian Bunk
2008-04-17 13:50 ` J. Bruce Fields
2008-04-17 15:26 ` Adrian Bunk
2008-04-16 19:58 ` Alexey Dobriyan
2008-04-16 20:01 ` Arjan van de Ven
2008-04-16 19:39 ` Sverre Rabbelier
2008-04-16 20:16 ` Adrian Bunk
2008-04-16 20:53 ` Adrian Bunk
2008-04-16 21:05 ` Sverre Rabbelier
2008-04-16 21:25 ` Adrian Bunk
2008-04-16 20:04 ` Willy Tarreau
2008-04-16 20:55 ` Jakub Narebski
2008-04-16 21:17 ` Jesper Juhl
2008-04-17 17:04 ` David Newall
2008-04-17 19:09 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2008-04-17 19:35 ` Ray Lee
2008-04-17 19:57 ` Sverre Rabbelier
2008-04-17 20:16 ` Al Viro
2008-04-17 20:38 ` Ray Lee
2008-04-17 20:53 ` Al Viro
2008-04-17 21:01 ` Ray Lee
2008-04-14 19:13 ` Rene Herman
2008-04-14 20:38 ` Andrew Morton
2008-04-14 22:18 ` Rene Herman
2008-04-14 9:26 ` Andi Kleen
2008-04-13 20:35 ` David Miller
2008-04-14 10:18 ` Reporting bugs and bisection (was: Re: 2.6.25-rc8: FTP transfer errors) Ingo Molnar
2008-04-14 10:29 ` Reporting bugs and bisection Andi Kleen
2008-04-13 20:10 ` Reporting bugs and bisection (was: Re: 2.6.25-rc8: FTP transfer errors) Adrian Bunk
2008-04-14 9:58 ` Reporting bugs and bisection Andi Kleen
2008-04-14 10:00 ` Willy Tarreau
2008-04-14 10:16 ` Andi Kleen
2008-04-15 21:53 ` about bisections (was: Re: 2.6.25-rc8: FTP transfer errors) Ingo Molnar
2008-04-15 22:30 ` about bisections David Miller
2008-04-15 22:48 ` Ingo Molnar
2008-04-11 0:56 ` 2.6.25-rc8: FTP transfer errors Tilman Schmidt
2008-04-11 1:08 ` David Miller
2008-04-11 0:26 ` David Miller
2008-04-11 0:29 ` Mark Lord
2008-04-11 2:59 ` YOSHIFUJI Hideaki / 吉藤英明
2008-04-11 3:18 ` [PATCH 2.6.25] net sockets: fix timewait namespace regression Mark Lord
2008-04-11 3:51 ` David Miller
2008-04-11 7:50 ` 2.6.25-rc8: FTP transfer errors Pavel Emelyanov
2008-04-10 20:46 ` Ilpo Järvinen
2008-04-10 21:05 ` Mark Lord
2008-04-10 21:43 ` Ilpo Järvinen
2008-04-12 8:41 devzero
2008-04-13 20:22 ` Adrian Bunk
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