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From: Jens Axboe <jens.axboe@oracle.com>
To: Heiko Carstens <heiko.carstens@de.ibm.com>
Cc: linux-arch@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	npiggin@suse.de, torvalds@linux-foundation.org,
	peterz@infradead.org, sam@ravnborg.org,
	Martin Schwidefsky <schwidefsky@de.ibm.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 11/11] s390: convert to generic helpers for IPI  function calls
Date: Wed, 23 Apr 2008 13:54:31 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20080423115430.GK12774@kernel.dk> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20080423114744.GA29422@osiris.boeblingen.de.ibm.com>

On Wed, Apr 23 2008, Heiko Carstens wrote:
> > > > Your generic patch changes semantics of smp_call_function(). At least the
> > > > s390 version of smp_call_function() mask used to not return unless all IPIs
> > > > where received on the target cpus.
> > > > Your patch changes that. It will already return as soon as all IPIs have
> > > > been sent. Unfortunately Martin's etr code in arch/s390/kernel/time.c
> > > 
> > > Yep, this is what I mentioned in the intro mail.
> > > 
> > > > relies on exactly the old semantics.
> > > 
> > > OK, I could not see anything which relied on that and I did think that
> > > it was a somewhat odd interface. By the time that smp_call_function()
> > > stops waiting for startups, we could easily be in the condition that the
> > > N-1 CPUs executed the function part a long time ago. I just didn't see
> > > much usefulness in that, you may as well just set wait == 1 in that
> > > case.
> > > 
> > > > Since this seems to be an s390 only issue, could you just drop the s390
> > > > conversion patch? We'll have to think about how to change the err code
> > > > and convert later I guess.
> > > 
> > > I'll drop the s390 bits. I can easily add something like
> > > smp_call_function_foo() that has this behaviour.
> > 
> > I added an smp_call_function_sync() for this purpose and kept the s390
> > conversion, I would very much appreciate if you could look it over. I
> > wont post the full patchset again today, but you can inspect it here:
> > 
> > http://git.kernel.dk/?p=linux-2.6-block.git;a=shortlog;h=refs/heads/generic-ipi
> > 
> > The interesting bits are patch #1 for the generic bits and patch #11 for
> > the s390 part. Thanks!
> 
> I don't think that works: the old code also relied on the fact that there
> could be only one cpu sending an smp_call_* IPI (serialized by call_lock).
> The current etr code exploits that to serialize all cpus:
> 
> Do smp_call_function() to force all other cpus into clock_sync_cpu_start()
> where they sort of busy wait(!). Then the master cpu is syncing the clock
> and when it finished the other cpus may continue again and finally leave
> the smp_call_function interrupt handler.
> 
> Your patch series however doesn't make sure anymore that there is only
> one cpu doing an smp_call_function*, so we may deadlock as soon as two
> cpus are trying to synchronize all cpus this way.
> After all I think the etr code should be converted to use stop_machine_run
> instead. However that doesn't allow for master/slave cpus.

You are right. I'll drop the code again, it would be nice to get rid of
this interface, I guess s390 can do that when they convert to the
generic helpers.

-- 
Jens Axboe


  reply	other threads:[~2008-04-23 11:54 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 56+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2008-04-22 18:50 [PATCH 0/11] Generic smp_call_function() #2 Jens Axboe
2008-04-22 18:50 ` [PATCH 1/11] Add generic helpers for arch IPI function calls Jens Axboe
2008-04-22 20:17   ` Peter Zijlstra
2008-04-23  6:07     ` Jens Axboe
2008-04-23  6:32       ` Peter Zijlstra
2008-04-23  7:49         ` Jens Axboe
2008-04-23  7:50           ` Peter Zijlstra
2008-04-24 22:01   ` Russell King
2008-04-25  7:18     ` Jens Axboe
2008-04-26  6:28       ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2008-04-28  7:38         ` Jes Sorensen
2008-04-26  6:11   ` Andrew Morton
2008-04-26 14:13     ` James Bottomley
2008-04-27  0:58     ` Paul E. McKenney
2008-04-27 10:36       ` Jens Axboe
2008-04-27 10:30     ` Jens Axboe
2008-04-28 14:25     ` David Howells
2008-04-28 14:43       ` James Bottomley
2008-04-22 18:50 ` [PATCH 2/11] x86: convert to generic helpers for " Jens Axboe
2008-04-22 19:03   ` Linus Torvalds
2008-04-22 19:12     ` Ingo Molnar
2008-04-22 19:22       ` Linus Torvalds
2008-04-22 19:26         ` Ingo Molnar
2008-04-22 19:50           ` Linus Torvalds
2008-04-23  1:11             ` Nick Piggin
2008-04-23  1:22               ` Linus Torvalds
2008-04-23  1:36                 ` Nick Piggin
2008-04-23  7:08               ` Jens Axboe
2008-04-23 12:54     ` Jens Axboe
2008-04-26  6:44   ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2008-04-27 10:23     ` Jens Axboe
2008-04-27 15:18       ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2008-04-22 18:50 ` [PATCH 3/11] powerpc: " Jens Axboe
2008-04-22 18:50 ` [PATCH 4/11] ia64: " Jens Axboe
2008-04-22 18:50 ` [PATCH 5/11] alpha: " Jens Axboe
2008-04-22 18:50 ` [PATCH 6/11] arm: " Jens Axboe
2008-04-22 18:50 ` [PATCH 7/11] m32r: " Jens Axboe
2008-04-22 18:50 ` [PATCH 8/11] mips: " Jens Axboe
2008-04-22 23:18   ` Ralf Baechle
2008-04-23  7:18     ` Jens Axboe
2008-04-22 18:50 ` [PATCH 9/11] parisc: " Jens Axboe
2008-04-22 18:50 ` [PATCH 10/11] sh: " Jens Axboe
2008-04-25  8:56   ` Paul Mundt
2008-04-25  9:16     ` Jens Axboe
2008-04-22 18:50 ` [PATCH 11/11] s390: " Jens Axboe
2008-04-23  7:58   ` Heiko Carstens
2008-04-23  8:11     ` Jens Axboe
2008-04-23 11:21       ` Jens Axboe
2008-04-23 11:47         ` Heiko Carstens
2008-04-23 11:54           ` Jens Axboe [this message]
2008-04-23 12:42           ` Martin Schwidefsky
2008-04-23 15:56             ` Rusty Russell
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2008-04-22  7:57 [PATCH 0/11] Generic smp_call_function() and friends Jens Axboe
2008-04-22  7:57 ` [PATCH 11/11] s390: convert to generic helpers for IPI function calls Jens Axboe
2008-04-22  8:04   ` Martin Schwidefsky
2008-04-22  8:07     ` Jens Axboe
2008-04-22  7:57 ` Jens Axboe

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