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From: Jens Axboe <jens.axboe@oracle.com>
To: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>
Cc: linux-arch@vger.kernel.org,
	Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	npiggin@suse.de, peterz@infradead.org, sam@ravnborg.org,
	Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 2/11] x86: convert to generic helpers for IPI function  calls
Date: Wed, 23 Apr 2008 14:54:46 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20080423125445.GN12774@kernel.dk> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <alpine.LFD.1.10.0804221157220.2779@woody.linux-foundation.org>

On Tue, Apr 22 2008, Linus Torvalds wrote:
> 
> [ Ingo added to cc, since this is x86-specific ]
> 
> On Tue, 22 Apr 2008, Jens Axboe wrote:
> > +++ b/arch/x86/kernel/apic_32.c
> > @@ -1357,6 +1357,10 @@ void __init smp_intr_init(void)
> >  
> >  	/* IPI for generic function call */
> >  	set_intr_gate(CALL_FUNCTION_VECTOR, call_function_interrupt);
> > +
> > +	/* IPI for single call function */
> > +	set_intr_gate(CALL_FUNCTION_SINGLE_VECTOR,
> > +				call_function_single_interrupt);
> 
> Ok, one more comment..
> 
> Why bother with separate vectors for this?
> 
> Why not just make the single vector do
> 
> 	void smp_call_function_interrupt(void)
> 	{
> 		ack_APIC_irq();
> 		irq_enter();
> 		generic_smp_call_function_single_interrupt();
> 		generic_smp_call_function_interrupt();
> 	#ifdef CONFIG_X86_32
> 		__get_cpu_var(irq_stat).irq_call_count++;
> 	#else
> 		add_pda(irq_call_count, 1);
> 	#endif
> 		irq_exit();
> 	}
> 
> since they are both doing the exact same thing anyway?
> 
> Do we really require us to be able to handle the "single" case _while_ a 
> "multiple" case is busy? Aren't we running all of these things with 
> interrupts disabled anyway, so that it cannot happen?
> 
> Or is it just a performance optimization?  Do we expect to really have so 
> many of the multiple interrupts that it's expensive to walk the list just 
> because we also had a single interrupt to another CPU? That sounds a bit 
> unlikely, but if true, very interesting..
> 
> Inquiring minds want to know..

Regarding that last comment... The reason why I'm doing this work is
because I want to use smp_call_function_single() to redirect IO
completions. So there WILL be lots of
smp_call_function_single_interrupt() interrupts, they will be a lot more
prevalent than smp_call_function() interrupts. I don't have any numbers
on this since I haven't tried collapsing them all, but I'd be surprised
if it wasn't noticable.

That said, some archs do use a single IPI for multiple actions and just
keep a bitmask of what to do in that IPI. So it would still be possible
to use a single hardware IPI to do various things, without resorting to
calling into the interrupt handler for each of them. The _single()
interrupt handler is a cheap check though, an smp memory barrier and a
list_empty() check is enough (like it currently does).

-- 
Jens Axboe


  parent reply	other threads:[~2008-04-23 12:55 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 62+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2008-04-22 18:50 [PATCH 0/11] Generic smp_call_function() #2 Jens Axboe
2008-04-22 18:50 ` [PATCH 1/11] Add generic helpers for arch IPI function calls Jens Axboe
2008-04-22 20:17   ` Peter Zijlstra
2008-04-23  6:07     ` Jens Axboe
2008-04-23  6:32       ` Peter Zijlstra
2008-04-23  7:49         ` Jens Axboe
2008-04-23  7:50           ` Peter Zijlstra
2008-04-24 22:01   ` Russell King
2008-04-25  7:18     ` Jens Axboe
2008-04-26  6:28       ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2008-04-28  7:38         ` Jes Sorensen
2008-04-26  6:11   ` Andrew Morton
2008-04-26 14:13     ` James Bottomley
2008-04-27  0:58     ` Paul E. McKenney
2008-04-27 10:36       ` Jens Axboe
2008-04-27 10:30     ` Jens Axboe
2008-04-28 14:25     ` David Howells
2008-04-28 14:43       ` James Bottomley
2008-04-22 18:50 ` [PATCH 2/11] x86: convert to generic helpers for " Jens Axboe
2008-04-22 19:03   ` Linus Torvalds
2008-04-22 19:12     ` Ingo Molnar
2008-04-22 19:22       ` Linus Torvalds
2008-04-22 19:26         ` Ingo Molnar
2008-04-22 19:50           ` Linus Torvalds
2008-04-23  1:11             ` Nick Piggin
2008-04-23  1:22               ` Linus Torvalds
2008-04-23  1:36                 ` Nick Piggin
2008-04-23  7:08               ` Jens Axboe
2008-04-23 12:54     ` Jens Axboe [this message]
2008-04-26  6:44   ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2008-04-27 10:23     ` Jens Axboe
2008-04-27 15:18       ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2008-04-22 18:50 ` [PATCH 3/11] powerpc: " Jens Axboe
2008-04-22 18:50 ` [PATCH 4/11] ia64: " Jens Axboe
2008-04-22 18:50 ` [PATCH 5/11] alpha: " Jens Axboe
2008-04-22 18:50 ` [PATCH 6/11] arm: " Jens Axboe
2008-04-22 18:50 ` [PATCH 7/11] m32r: " Jens Axboe
2008-04-22 18:50 ` [PATCH 8/11] mips: " Jens Axboe
2008-04-22 23:18   ` Ralf Baechle
2008-04-23  7:18     ` Jens Axboe
2008-04-22 18:50 ` [PATCH 9/11] parisc: " Jens Axboe
2008-04-22 18:50 ` [PATCH 10/11] sh: " Jens Axboe
2008-04-25  8:56   ` Paul Mundt
2008-04-25  9:16     ` Jens Axboe
2008-04-22 18:50 ` [PATCH 11/11] s390: " Jens Axboe
2008-04-23  7:58   ` Heiko Carstens
2008-04-23  8:11     ` Jens Axboe
2008-04-23 11:21       ` Jens Axboe
2008-04-23 11:47         ` Heiko Carstens
2008-04-23 11:54           ` Jens Axboe
2008-04-23 12:42           ` Martin Schwidefsky
2008-04-23 15:56             ` Rusty Russell
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2008-04-22  7:57 [PATCH 0/11] Generic smp_call_function() and friends Jens Axboe
2008-04-22  7:57 ` [PATCH 2/11] x86: convert to generic helpers for IPI function calls Jens Axboe
2008-04-22  8:38   ` Sam Ravnborg
2008-04-22  8:43     ` Jens Axboe
2008-04-22 11:15       ` Jens Axboe
2008-04-22  8:47   ` Ingo Molnar
2008-04-22  8:48     ` Jacek Luczak
2008-04-22  8:56       ` Jens Axboe
2008-04-22  9:04         ` Jacek Luczak
2008-04-22  8:52     ` Jens Axboe
2008-04-26  8:59     ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge

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