From: Vaidyanathan Srinivasan <svaidy@linux.vnet.ibm.com>
To: Mike Galbraith <efault@gmx.de>
Cc: balbir@linux.vnet.ibm.com, Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
Peter Zijlstra <a.p.zijlstra@chello.nl>,
Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v7 0/8] Tunable sched_mc_power_savings=n
Date: Wed, 7 Jan 2009 16:56:39 +0530 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20090107112639.GI4574@dirshya.in.ibm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1231318755.3899.57.camel@marge.simson.net>
* Mike Galbraith <efault@gmx.de> [2009-01-07 09:59:15]:
> I have a couple questions if you don't mind.
>
> In wake_idle() there's an odd looking check for kthreads. Why does it
> matter if a kbuild task wakes kernel or userland helper thread?
Only user space tasks/threads should be biased at wakeup and
consolidated for the following reasons:
* kernel threads generally perform housekeeping tasks and its rate of
execution and cpu utilisation is far less than that of user task in
an under utilised system.
* Biasing at wakeup help consolidate bursty user space tasks. Long
running user space tasks will be consolidated by load balancer.
kthreads are not bursty, they are generally very short running.
> I also don't see why sched_mc overrides domain tunings. You can turn
> NEWIDLE off and sched_mc remains as set, so it's a one-way override. If
> NEWIDLE is a requirement for sched_mc > 0, it seems only logical to set
> sched_mc to 0 if the user explicitly disables NEWIDLE.
SD_BALANCE_NEWIDLE is required for sched_mc=2 and power savings while
not mandated for sched_mc=0. We can remove NEWIDLE balance at
sched_mc=0 if that helps baseline performance. Ingo had identified
that removing NEWIDLE balance help performance in certain benchmarks.
I do not get what you have mentioned by NEWIDLE off? Is there
a separate user space control to independently set or reset
SD_BALANCE_NEWIDLE at a give sched_domain level?
Thanks for the detailed review.
--Vaidy
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2009-01-07 11:24 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 62+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2008-12-18 17:55 Vaidyanathan Srinivasan
2008-12-18 17:56 ` [PATCH v7 1/8] sched: convert BALANCE_FOR_xx_POWER to inline functions Vaidyanathan Srinivasan
2008-12-18 17:56 ` [PATCH v7 2/8] sched: Framework for sched_mc/smt_power_savings=N Vaidyanathan Srinivasan
2008-12-18 17:56 ` [PATCH v7 3/8] sched: favour lower logical cpu number for sched_mc balance Vaidyanathan Srinivasan
2008-12-18 17:56 ` [PATCH v7 4/8] sched: nominate preferred wakeup cpu Vaidyanathan Srinivasan
2008-12-18 18:12 ` Balbir Singh
2008-12-19 21:55 ` Andrew Morton
2008-12-19 22:19 ` Andrew Morton
2008-12-19 22:27 ` Ingo Molnar
2008-12-19 22:31 ` Ingo Molnar
2008-12-19 22:38 ` Andrew Morton
2008-12-19 22:54 ` Ingo Molnar
2008-12-20 4:36 ` Vaidyanathan Srinivasan
2008-12-20 4:44 ` Andrew Morton
2008-12-20 7:54 ` Ingo Molnar
2008-12-20 10:02 ` Vaidyanathan Srinivasan
2008-12-20 10:36 ` Vaidyanathan Srinivasan
2008-12-20 10:56 ` Vaidyanathan Srinivasan
2008-12-21 8:46 ` Ingo Molnar
2008-12-18 17:56 ` [PATCH v7 5/8] sched: bias task wakeups to preferred semi-idle packages Vaidyanathan Srinivasan
2008-12-18 18:11 ` Balbir Singh
2008-12-18 17:56 ` [PATCH v7 6/8] sched: activate active load balancing in new idle cpus Vaidyanathan Srinivasan
2008-12-18 17:56 ` [PATCH v7 7/8] sched: add SD_BALANCE_NEWIDLE at MC and CPU level for sched_mc>0 Vaidyanathan Srinivasan
2008-12-18 17:56 ` [PATCH v7 8/8] sched: idle_balance() does not call load_balance_newidle() Vaidyanathan Srinivasan
2008-12-18 18:12 ` Balbir Singh
2008-12-18 20:17 ` Ingo Molnar
2008-12-18 20:19 ` [PATCH v7 0/8] Tunable sched_mc_power_savings=n Ingo Molnar
2008-12-18 20:31 ` Ingo Molnar
2008-12-19 8:29 ` Vaidyanathan Srinivasan
2008-12-19 8:24 ` Vaidyanathan Srinivasan
2008-12-19 13:34 ` Vaidyanathan Srinivasan
2008-12-29 23:43 ` MinChan Kim
2008-12-30 2:48 ` Balbir Singh
2008-12-30 6:21 ` Ingo Molnar
2008-12-30 6:44 ` Balbir Singh
2008-12-30 7:20 ` Ingo Molnar
2008-12-30 18:07 ` Vaidyanathan Srinivasan
2009-01-02 7:26 ` Vaidyanathan Srinivasan
2009-01-02 22:16 ` Ingo Molnar
2009-01-03 7:29 ` Mike Galbraith
2009-01-03 10:16 ` Vaidyanathan Srinivasan
2009-01-03 11:22 ` Mike Galbraith
2009-01-04 15:00 ` Mike Galbraith
2009-01-04 18:19 ` Vaidyanathan Srinivasan
2009-01-04 19:52 ` Mike Galbraith
2009-01-05 3:20 ` Vaidyanathan Srinivasan
2009-01-05 4:40 ` Mike Galbraith
2009-01-05 6:36 ` Mike Galbraith
2009-01-05 15:19 ` Mike Galbraith
2009-01-06 9:31 ` Mike Galbraith
2009-01-06 15:07 ` Vaidyanathan Srinivasan
2009-01-06 17:48 ` Mike Galbraith
2009-01-06 18:45 ` Balbir Singh
2009-01-07 8:59 ` Mike Galbraith
2009-01-07 11:26 ` Vaidyanathan Srinivasan [this message]
2009-01-07 14:36 ` Mike Galbraith
2009-01-07 15:35 ` Vaidyanathan Srinivasan
2009-01-08 8:06 ` Mike Galbraith
2009-01-08 17:46 ` Vaidyanathan Srinivasan
2009-01-09 6:00 ` Mike Galbraith
2009-01-06 14:54 ` Vaidyanathan Srinivasan
2008-12-30 17:31 ` Vaidyanathan Srinivasan
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