From: Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>
To: Alexey Zaytsev <alexey.zaytsev@gmail.com>
Cc: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>,
LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
Nick Piggin <nickpiggin@yahoo.com.au>,
Peter Zijlstra <a.p.zijlstra@chello.nl>
Subject: Re: linux-next: Tree for December 11
Date: Wed, 7 Jan 2009 19:47:21 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20090107184721.GA16193@elte.hu> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <f19298770901070935u6396a367j86937c9394518877@mail.gmail.com>
* Alexey Zaytsev <alexey.zaytsev@gmail.com> wrote:
> And last time I bisected, it pointed to:
>
> commit 7317d7b87edb41a9135e30be1ec3f7ef817c53dd
> Author: Nick Piggin <nickpiggin@yahoo.com.au>
> Date: Tue Sep 30 20:50:27 2008 +1000
>
> sched: improve preempt debugging
>
>
> This patch helped me out with a problem I recently had....
>
> Basically, when the kernel lock is held, then preempt_count
> underflow does not
> get detected until it is released which may be a long time (and arbitrarily,
> eg at different points it may be rescheduled). If the bkl is released at
> schedule, the resulting output is actually fairly cryptic...
>
> With any other lock that elevates preempt_count, it is illegal to schedule
> under it (which would get found pretty quickly). bkl allows scheduling with
> preempt_count elevated, which makes underflows hard to debug.
>
> Signed-off-by: Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>
>
> so at least a dumb bisection won't do here.
ah, sorry for being a slow starter, i missed that bit - merge window
attention span troubles ...
I think the kernel_locked() check added here is plain buggy against IRQ
contexts: we drop the BKL spinlock and reduce current->kernel_depth
non-atomically.
So kernel_locked() can become detached from the preempt_count().
Nick, can you think of any better way of still saving this debug check, or
should we revert it?
Although it seems a bit weird how consistently you seem to be able to
trigger it - as this seems to be a narrow race. Is there an IRQ storm
there perhaps, or something widens things up for Qemu to inject an IRQ
right there?
Ingo
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2009-01-07 18:47 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 13+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2008-12-11 9:04 Stephen Rothwell
2008-12-11 12:40 ` Alexey Zaytsev
2008-12-14 14:34 ` Alexey Zaytsev
2008-12-16 21:08 ` Ingo Molnar
2008-12-16 22:21 ` Alexey Zaytsev
2008-12-16 22:23 ` Ingo Molnar
2009-01-07 16:30 ` Alexey Zaytsev
2009-01-07 16:50 ` Linus Torvalds
2009-01-07 17:17 ` Ingo Molnar
2009-01-07 17:35 ` Alexey Zaytsev
2009-01-07 18:47 ` Ingo Molnar [this message]
2009-01-07 19:10 ` Alexey Zaytsev
2009-12-11 5:01 Stephen Rothwell
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