From: "Alexey Zaytsev" <alexey.zaytsev@gmail.com>
To: "Ingo Molnar" <mingo@elte.hu>
Cc: "Linus Torvalds" <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>,
LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
"Nick Piggin" <nickpiggin@yahoo.com.au>,
"Peter Zijlstra" <a.p.zijlstra@chello.nl>
Subject: Re: linux-next: Tree for December 11
Date: Wed, 7 Jan 2009 22:10:18 +0300 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <f19298770901071110vad914c1w364b5973b35c4c16@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20090107184721.GA16193@elte.hu>
On Wed, Jan 7, 2009 at 21:47, Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu> wrote:
>
> * Alexey Zaytsev <alexey.zaytsev@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> And last time I bisected, it pointed to:
>>
>> commit 7317d7b87edb41a9135e30be1ec3f7ef817c53dd
>> Author: Nick Piggin <nickpiggin@yahoo.com.au>
>> Date: Tue Sep 30 20:50:27 2008 +1000
>>
>> sched: improve preempt debugging
>>
>>
>> This patch helped me out with a problem I recently had....
>>
>> Basically, when the kernel lock is held, then preempt_count
>> underflow does not
>> get detected until it is released which may be a long time (and arbitrarily,
>> eg at different points it may be rescheduled). If the bkl is released at
>> schedule, the resulting output is actually fairly cryptic...
>>
>> With any other lock that elevates preempt_count, it is illegal to schedule
>> under it (which would get found pretty quickly). bkl allows scheduling with
>> preempt_count elevated, which makes underflows hard to debug.
>>
>> Signed-off-by: Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>
>>
>> so at least a dumb bisection won't do here.
>
> ah, sorry for being a slow starter, i missed that bit - merge window
> attention span troubles ...
>
> I think the kernel_locked() check added here is plain buggy against IRQ
> contexts: we drop the BKL spinlock and reduce current->kernel_depth
> non-atomically.
>
> So kernel_locked() can become detached from the preempt_count().
>
> Nick, can you think of any better way of still saving this debug check, or
> should we revert it?
>
> Although it seems a bit weird how consistently you seem to be able to
> trigger it - as this seems to be a narrow race. Is there an IRQ storm
> there perhaps, or something widens things up for Qemu to inject an IRQ
> right there?
I'm not sure about the qemu case, but at least on my laptop it happens
somewhere along
arch/x86/kernel/cpu/bugs.c:
92 printk(KERN_INFO "Checking 'hlt' instruction... ");
93 if (!boot_cpu_data.hlt_works_ok) {
94 printk("disabled\n");
95 return;
96 }
97 halt();
98 halt();
99 halt();
100 halt();
101 printk("OK.\n");
where an interrupt has to come in order to get the cpu from hlt, so
there is no surprise that I'm seeing this on every single boot. ;)
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2009-01-07 19:10 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 13+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2008-12-11 9:04 Stephen Rothwell
2008-12-11 12:40 ` Alexey Zaytsev
2008-12-14 14:34 ` Alexey Zaytsev
2008-12-16 21:08 ` Ingo Molnar
2008-12-16 22:21 ` Alexey Zaytsev
2008-12-16 22:23 ` Ingo Molnar
2009-01-07 16:30 ` Alexey Zaytsev
2009-01-07 16:50 ` Linus Torvalds
2009-01-07 17:17 ` Ingo Molnar
2009-01-07 17:35 ` Alexey Zaytsev
2009-01-07 18:47 ` Ingo Molnar
2009-01-07 19:10 ` Alexey Zaytsev [this message]
2009-12-11 5:01 Stephen Rothwell
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