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From: "Paul E. McKenney" <paulmck@linux.vnet.ibm.com>
To: Nick Piggin <nickpiggin@yahoo.com.au>
Cc: Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Vegard Nossum <vegard.nossum@gmail.com>,
	stable@kernel.org, Nick Piggin <npiggin@suse.de>,
	Pekka Enberg <penberg@cs.helsinki.fi>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH] mm: fix lazy vmap purging (use-after-free error)
Date: Mon, 23 Feb 2009 19:37:12 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20090224033712.GA7173@linux.vnet.ibm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <200902241423.21091.nickpiggin@yahoo.com.au>

On Tue, Feb 24, 2009 at 02:23:19PM +1100, Nick Piggin wrote:
> On Tuesday 24 February 2009 07:43:59 Paul E. McKenney wrote:
> > On Mon, Feb 23, 2009 at 08:33:51PM +0100, Ingo Molnar wrote:
> > > * Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org> wrote:
> > > > On Mon, 23 Feb 2009 08:17:26 -0800 "Paul E. McKenney" 
> <paulmck@linux.vnet.ibm.com> wrote:
> > > > > On Tue, Feb 24, 2009 at 12:29:36AM +1100, Nick Piggin wrote:
> > > > > > On Monday 23 February 2009 16:17:09 Paul E. McKenney wrote:
> > > > > > > The boot CPU runs in the context of its idle thread during
> > > > > > > boot-up. During this time, idle_cpu(0) will always return
> > > > > > > nonzero, which will fool Classic and Hierarchical RCU into
> > > > > > > deciding that a large chunk of the boot-up sequence is a big long
> > > > > > > quiescent state.  This in turn causes RCU to prematurely end
> > > > > > > grace periods during this time.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > This patch creates a new global variable that is set to 1 just
> > > > > > > before the boot CPU first enters the scheduler, after which the
> > > > > > > idle task really is idle.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Nice work all (btw. if this patch goes in rather than using
> > > > > > system_state, then please make the variable __read_mostly).
> > > > >
> > > > > Hmmm...  I misread this and made system_state be __read_mostly.  Let
> > > > > me know if this is bad, easy to fix if needed.
> > > >
> > > > Please don't use system_state.  The whole thing is just bad
> > > > design. It's a global variable, breaks encapsulation, creates
> > > > interactions etc. CS-101 stuff.
> > >
> > > ok, i've removed the patch - Paul, would you mind to re-send
> > > your original flag solution, with it marked __read_mostly and
> > > with the extern declarations put into a suitable header file?
> > >
> > > Paul, incidentally, this very minute i tracked down that the
> > > patch is also causing boot lockups in -tip testing. I havent yet
> > > fully debugged it, but a question comes immediately: if there's
> > > no grace periods during bootup, wont rcu_sync() & friends just
> > > hang indefinitely?
> >
> > Ouch!!!  Indeed they would.
> >
> > > More thought is needed.
> >
> > One fix would be to sprinkle calls to rcu_qsctr_inc() through the
> > boot process.  But a much better approach would be for me to make
> > synchronize_rcu() check this same flag, and simply return if called
> > during early boot.  The rationale for this is that there is but a single
> > CPU during early boot, so tinyrcu.c's optimization can be used.  ;-)
> 
> Well can you simply return if called if num_online_cpus() == 1, regardless
> of the state of boot?

Yep!

And that is indeed what I do in http://lkml.org/lkml/2009/2/23/305.

						Thanx, Paul

> > Out of both paranoia and self defense, I would check num_online_cpus()
> > in my proposed call into RCU.  ;-)
> >
> > Seem reasonable?  And does synchronize_sched() also need the UP-only
> > optimization?
> 

  reply	other threads:[~2009-02-24  3:37 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 46+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2009-02-20 13:41 Vegard Nossum
2009-02-20 13:50 ` Ingo Molnar
2009-02-20 13:58   ` Pekka Enberg
2009-02-20 14:01   ` Ingo Molnar
2009-02-20 14:18     ` Pekka Enberg
2009-02-20 15:41       ` Paul E. McKenney
2009-02-20 14:51     ` Vegard Nossum
2009-02-20 15:46       ` Paul E. McKenney
2009-02-20 16:04         ` Ingo Molnar
2009-02-20 16:44           ` Paul E. McKenney
2009-02-20 17:14             ` Ingo Molnar
2009-02-20 17:25               ` Paul E. McKenney
2009-02-20 23:51         ` Vegard Nossum
2009-02-21  1:40           ` Paul E. McKenney
2009-02-21  9:30             ` Vegard Nossum
2009-02-21 17:47               ` Paul E. McKenney
2009-02-21 18:08                 ` Vegard Nossum
2009-02-21 18:33                   ` Paul E. McKenney
2009-02-21 18:37                   ` Vegard Nossum
2009-02-22  3:00                     ` Paul E. McKenney
2009-02-23  5:17                       ` Paul E. McKenney
2009-02-23  8:24                         ` Vegard Nossum
2009-02-23 15:39                           ` Paul E. McKenney
2009-02-23  9:07                         ` Ingo Molnar
2009-02-23  9:17                           ` Andrew Morton
2009-02-23  9:27                             ` Ingo Molnar
2009-02-23 15:56                               ` Paul E. McKenney
2009-02-23 13:29                         ` Nick Piggin
2009-02-23 16:17                           ` Paul E. McKenney
2009-02-23 17:20                             ` Ingo Molnar
2009-02-23 19:10                             ` Andrew Morton
2009-02-23 19:30                               ` Paul E. McKenney
2009-02-23 19:59                                 ` Andrew Morton
2009-02-23 20:12                                   ` Paul E. McKenney
2009-02-23 20:30                                     ` Andrew Morton
2009-02-23 19:33                               ` Ingo Molnar
2009-02-23 20:04                                 ` Andrew Morton
2009-02-23 20:09                                   ` Ingo Molnar
2009-02-23 20:44                                   ` Paul E. McKenney
2009-02-23 20:43                                 ` Paul E. McKenney
2009-02-24  3:23                                   ` Nick Piggin
2009-02-24  3:37                                     ` Paul E. McKenney [this message]
2009-02-21 19:21                 ` Vegard Nossum
2009-02-20 16:01       ` Ingo Molnar
2009-02-20 16:49         ` Paul E. McKenney
2009-02-20 15:56     ` Paul E. McKenney

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