From: Nick Piggin <nickpiggin@yahoo.com.au>
To: David Howells <dhowells@redhat.com>
Cc: viro@zeniv.linux.org.uk, nfsv4@linux-nfs.org,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 06/43] FS-Cache: Recruit a couple of page flags for cache management [ver #46]
Date: Fri, 3 Apr 2009 03:15:02 +1100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <200904030315.03606.nickpiggin@yahoo.com.au> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <6362.1238687462@redhat.com>
On Friday 03 April 2009 02:51:02 David Howells wrote:
> Nick Piggin <nickpiggin@yahoo.com.au> wrote:
>
> > Haven't looked closely at how fscache works.
>
> It's fairly simple. FS-Cache sets PG_private_2 (PageFsCache) on pages that the
> netfs tells it about, if it retains an interest in the page. This causes
> invalidatepage() and suchlike to be invoked on that page when the page is
> discarded.
>
> The netfs can check for the page being in use by calling PageFsCache() and then
> uncache the page if it is in use:
>
> #ifdef CONFIG_AFS_FSCACHE
> if (PageFsCache(page)) {
> struct afs_vnode *vnode = AFS_FS_I(page->mapping->host);
> wait_on_page_fscache_write(page);
> fscache_uncache_page(vnode->cache, page);
> }
> #endif
>
> which clears the bit.
OK, then you just use PG_private for that, and have the netfs
use a PG_owner_private or some such bit to tell that it is an
fscache page.
> Furthermore, when FS-Cache is asked to store a page to the cache, it
> immediately marks it with PG_owner_priv_2 (PageFsCacheWrite). This is cleared
> when FS-Cache no longer needs the data in the page for writing to the cache.
>
> This allows (1) invalidatepage() to wait until the page is written before it is
> returned to the memory allocator, and (2) releasepage() to indicate that the
> page is busy if __GFP_WAIT is not given.
So it isn't written synchronously at invalidatepage-time? OK.
> > Possibly you can't reuse mappedtodisk....
>
> PG_mappedtodisk has a very specific meaning to fs/buffer.c and fs/mpage.c. I
> can't also easily make it mean that a page is backed by the cache. A page can
> be cached and not mapped to disk.
You have 2 types of pagecache pages you are dealing with here, right? The
netfs and the backingfs pages. From what you write above, am I to take it
that you need to know whether a backingfs page is "backed by the cache"?
WTF for? And what cache is it backed by if it is the backing store?
> > > We still need a way of triggering the page invalidation callbacks for in-use
> > > pages, however. PG_private, as I've said, is not currently a viable option.
> >
> > Can you say exactly why not?
>
> fs/buffer.c owns PG_private in filesystems that use standard buffering. It
> sets it, clears it and tests it at its own behest without recourse to the
> filesystem using it.
One of us is confused about how this works. Firstly, from your description
above, you're needing the invalidatepage call from the *netfs* page. This is
not using fs/buffer.c presumably, that is the backing store fs.
Secondly, I repeat again, PG_private is only to tell the VM to call the fs aop,
so if you just think you can override this without changing the aop then you
are mistaken: buffer.c will blow up in serveral places if its page aops are
called without buffers being attached to the page (try_to_release_page being one
of them).
Thirdly, buffer layer is just a library for the filesystem to use. Of course it
has recourse to override things just by giving different aops (which could then
call into buffer.c if PG_fscache is not set or whatever you require).
> Also NFS uses PG_private for its own nefarious purposes. Making PG_private be
> the conjunction of both purposes entailed some fairly messy patching.
This is basically an NFS mess, so that's where it belongs. But anyway I don't
see how it could be less messy to add this in the VM because NFS aops *still*
need to distinguish between cases anyway.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2009-04-02 16:15 UTC|newest]
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2009-04-01 23:03 ` [PATCH 00/43] Permit filesystem local caching " David Howells
2009-04-01 23:03 ` [PATCH 01/43] Create a dynamically sized pool of threads for doing very slow work items " David Howells
2009-04-01 23:03 ` [PATCH 02/43] Make slow-work thread pool actually dynamic " David Howells
2009-04-01 23:03 ` [PATCH 03/43] Make the slow work pool configurable " David Howells
2009-04-01 23:03 ` [PATCH 04/43] Document the slow work thread pool " David Howells
2009-04-01 23:03 ` [PATCH 05/43] FS-Cache: Release page->private after failed readahead " David Howells
2009-04-02 14:21 ` David Howells
2009-04-02 17:17 ` Rik van Riel
2009-04-01 23:03 ` [PATCH 06/43] FS-Cache: Recruit a couple of page flags for cache management " David Howells
2009-04-02 14:36 ` David Howells
2009-04-02 15:25 ` Nick Piggin
2009-04-02 15:51 ` David Howells
2009-04-02 16:15 ` Nick Piggin [this message]
2009-04-02 16:53 ` Nick Piggin
2009-04-02 17:09 ` David Howells
2009-04-02 17:31 ` Nick Piggin
2009-04-02 17:40 ` David Howells
2009-04-02 18:14 ` Nick Piggin
2009-04-02 19:19 ` Trond Myklebust
2009-04-03 1:11 ` David Howells
2009-04-02 16:48 ` What I mean by a 'netfs' when dealing with FS-Cache David Howells
2009-04-02 17:06 ` David Howells
2009-04-02 18:23 ` [PATCH 06/43] FS-Cache: Recruit a couple of page flags for cache management [ver #46] Rik van Riel
2009-04-01 23:03 ` [PATCH 07/43] FS-Cache: Add the FS-Cache netfs API and documentation " David Howells
2009-04-01 23:04 ` [PATCH 08/43] FS-Cache: Add the FS-Cache cache backend " David Howells
2009-04-01 23:04 ` [PATCH 09/43] FS-Cache: Add main configuration option, module entry points and debugging " David Howells
2009-04-01 23:04 ` [PATCH 10/43] FS-Cache: Add use of /proc and presentation of statistics " David Howells
2009-04-01 23:04 ` [PATCH 11/43] FS-Cache: Root index definition " David Howells
2009-04-01 23:04 ` [PATCH 12/43] FS-Cache: Add cache tag handling " David Howells
2009-04-01 23:04 ` [PATCH 13/43] FS-Cache: Add cache management " David Howells
2009-04-01 23:04 ` [PATCH 14/43] FS-Cache: Provide a slab for cookie allocation " David Howells
2009-04-01 23:04 ` [PATCH 15/43] FS-Cache: Add netfs registration " David Howells
2009-04-01 23:04 ` [PATCH 16/43] FS-Cache: Bit waiting helpers " David Howells
2009-04-01 23:04 ` [PATCH 17/43] FS-Cache: Object management state machine " David Howells
2009-04-01 23:04 ` [PATCH 18/43] FS-Cache: Implement the cookie management part of the netfs API " David Howells
2009-04-01 23:04 ` [PATCH 19/43] FS-Cache: Add and document asynchronous operation handling " David Howells
2009-04-01 23:05 ` [PATCH 20/43] FS-Cache: Implement data I/O part of netfs API " David Howells
2009-04-01 23:05 ` [PATCH 21/43] CacheFiles: Be consistent about the use of mapping vs file->f_mapping in Ext3 " David Howells
2009-04-02 18:52 ` Rik van Riel
2009-04-01 23:05 ` [PATCH 22/43] CacheFiles: Add a hook to write a single page of data to an inode " David Howells
2009-04-02 14:55 ` David Howells
2009-04-02 15:32 ` Nick Piggin
2009-04-02 16:37 ` Christoph Hellwig
2009-04-02 16:47 ` Nick Piggin
2009-04-02 16:55 ` Christoph Hellwig
2009-04-02 17:07 ` Nick Piggin
2009-04-02 17:26 ` Jan Kara
2009-04-02 17:22 ` David Howells
2009-04-02 18:18 ` David Howells
2009-04-02 22:44 ` David Howells
2009-04-03 13:41 ` David Howells
2009-04-02 16:02 ` David Howells
2009-04-02 15:32 ` Peter Staubach
2009-04-02 16:03 ` David Howells
2009-04-02 18:48 ` Rik van Riel
2009-04-01 23:05 ` [PATCH 23/43] CacheFiles: Permit the page lock state to be monitored " David Howells
2009-04-02 15:37 ` Nick Piggin
2009-04-02 16:14 ` David Howells
2009-04-02 16:35 ` Nick Piggin
2009-04-02 17:05 ` David Howells
2009-04-02 18:03 ` Nick Piggin
2009-04-02 18:51 ` Rik van Riel
2009-04-01 23:05 ` [PATCH 24/43] CacheFiles: Export things for CacheFiles " David Howells
2009-04-02 18:53 ` Rik van Riel
2009-04-01 23:05 ` [PATCH 25/43] CacheFiles: A cache that backs onto a mounted filesystem " David Howells
2009-04-01 23:05 ` [PATCH 26/43] FS-Cache: Make kAFS use FS-Cache " David Howells
2009-04-01 23:05 ` [PATCH 27/43] NFS: Add comment banners to some NFS functions " David Howells
2009-04-01 23:05 ` [PATCH 28/43] NFS: Add FS-Cache option bit and debug bit " David Howells
2009-04-01 23:05 ` [PATCH 29/43] NFS: Permit local filesystem caching to be enabled for NFS " David Howells
2009-04-01 23:05 ` [PATCH 30/43] NFS: Register NFS for caching and retrieve the top-level index " David Howells
2009-04-01 23:06 ` [PATCH 31/43] NFS: Define and create server-level objects " David Howells
2009-04-01 23:06 ` [PATCH 32/43] NFS: Define and create superblock-level " David Howells
2009-04-01 23:06 ` [PATCH 33/43] NFS: Define and create inode-level cache " David Howells
2009-04-01 23:06 ` [PATCH 34/43] NFS: Use local disk inode cache " David Howells
2009-04-01 23:06 ` [PATCH 35/43] NFS: Invalidate FsCache page flags when cache removed " David Howells
2009-04-01 23:06 ` [PATCH 36/43] NFS: Add some new I/O counters for FS-Cache doing things for NFS " David Howells
2009-04-01 23:06 ` [PATCH 37/43] NFS: FS-Cache page management " David Howells
2009-04-01 23:06 ` [PATCH 38/43] NFS: Add read context retention for FS-Cache to call back with " David Howells
2009-04-01 23:06 ` [PATCH 39/43] NFS: nfs_readpage_async() needs to be accessible as a fallback for local caching " David Howells
2009-04-01 23:06 ` [PATCH 40/43] NFS: Read pages from FS-Cache into an NFS inode " David Howells
2009-04-01 23:06 ` [PATCH 41/43] NFS: Store pages from an NFS inode into a local cache " David Howells
2009-04-01 23:06 ` [PATCH 42/43] NFS: Display local caching state " David Howells
2009-04-01 23:07 ` [PATCH 43/43] NFS: Add mount options to enable local caching on NFS " David Howells
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