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From: Al Boldi <a1426z@gawab.com>
To: Andi Kleen <andi@firstfloor.org>, Greg KH <greg@kroah.com>
Cc: Alan Cox <alan@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, Kay Sievers <kay.sievers@vrfy.org>,
	Jan Blunck <jblunck@suse.de>,
	gregkh@suse.de, Harald Hoyer <harald@redhat.com>,
	Scott James Remnant <scott@ubuntu.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] Driver Core: devtmpfs - kernel-maintained tmpfs-based /dev
Date: Thu, 6 Aug 2009 20:06:16 +0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <200908062006.16263.a1426z@gawab.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87ljlxhrnr.fsf@basil.nowhere.org>

Andi Kleen wrote:
> Greg KH <greg@kroah.com> writes:
> > It makes the userspace boot process much simpler and easier to maintain,
> > as well as providing a way to handle rescue disks and images trivially,
> > and it makes the kernel _less_ dependant on the early userspace bootup
> > scripts.
>
> As a initrd less kernel user I can really only agree: getting rid
> of the udev-in-initrd requirement would be a big step forward
> in usability. Typically I always have to pre populate
> a on disk /dev manually first to get my kernels to boot.

Oh good, I thought I was the only one doing that.

The reason I don't like udev is that it's just to slow; something like a 5-10s 
delay on each boot.  No idea why it should be so slow, but it's probably 
probing the kernel for all available devices at boot, when it could be much 
quicker by probing for the device on access.


Thanks!

--
Al


  parent reply	other threads:[~2009-08-06 17:05 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 78+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2009-08-05 17:15 Greg KH
2009-08-05 17:43 ` David Vrabel
2009-08-05 17:55   ` Greg KH
2009-08-05 18:20 ` Alan Cox
2009-08-05 18:28   ` Greg KH
2009-08-05 18:51     ` Greg KH
2009-08-06 15:46       ` Andi Kleen
2009-08-06 16:20         ` David Dillow
2009-08-06 17:10           ` Andi Kleen
2009-08-06 18:31           ` Greg KH
2009-08-07 15:47             ` Phil Turmel
2009-08-08 23:07             ` David Dillow
2009-08-10 15:39               ` Greg KH
2009-08-11 14:36                 ` David Dillow
2009-08-11 14:55                   ` Andi Kleen
2009-08-12  0:04                     ` Marcel Holtmann
2009-08-12  0:25                     ` David Dillow
2009-08-12  0:34                       ` Greg KH
2009-08-12  4:31                         ` Arjan van de Ven
2009-08-12 12:56                         ` David Dillow
2009-08-12 13:44                           ` Greg KH
2009-08-12 14:09                             ` Arjan van de Ven
2009-08-12 15:25                               ` Greg KH
2009-08-12 14:39                             ` David Dillow
2009-08-12 15:26                               ` Greg KH
2009-08-12 15:57                                 ` David Dillow
2009-08-12  7:31                       ` Andi Kleen
2009-08-12 12:50                         ` David Dillow
2009-08-12 14:07                         ` Arjan van de Ven
2009-08-12 14:14                           ` Andi Kleen
2009-08-10  9:04           ` Scott James Remnant
2009-08-06 17:06         ` Al Boldi [this message]
2009-08-06 17:15           ` Kay Sievers
2009-08-06 17:27             ` Al Boldi
2009-08-06 17:31               ` Kay Sievers
2009-08-06 18:36           ` Greg KH
2009-08-06 20:18             ` Al Boldi
2009-08-06 20:49               ` Greg KH
2009-08-07  4:03                 ` Al Boldi
2009-08-07  4:25                   ` Greg KH
2009-08-07  5:04                     ` Al Boldi
2009-08-07  5:20                       ` Greg KH
2009-08-07 12:49                         ` Al Boldi
2009-08-07 15:13                           ` Greg KH
2009-08-07 15:51                         ` Chris Friesen
2009-08-07 16:06                           ` Kay Sievers
2009-08-07 21:17                           ` Al Boldi
2009-08-07 22:24                             ` Greg KH
2009-08-08  9:14                               ` Al Boldi
2009-08-08 17:11                                 ` Greg KH
2009-08-08 18:55                                   ` Al Boldi
2009-08-10 15:40                                     ` Greg KH
2009-08-11  3:48                                       ` Al Boldi
2009-08-11  4:04                                         ` Greg KH
2009-08-11 15:18                                           ` Al Boldi
2009-08-11 15:49                                             ` Greg KH
2009-08-11 16:04                                               ` Chris Friesen
2009-08-11 16:51                                                 ` Greg KH
2009-08-12  4:25                                                   ` Al Boldi
2009-08-10  9:01               ` Scott James Remnant
2009-08-10 12:05                 ` Al Boldi
2009-08-10 12:39                   ` Scott James Remnant
2009-08-10  9:22               ` Harald Hoyer
2009-08-08 22:19     ` Arjan van de Ven
2009-08-05 20:55 ` Alan Jenkins
2009-08-06  0:06   ` Greg KH
2009-08-06  0:19     ` Kay Sievers
2009-08-07  0:27       ` Greg KH
2009-08-09 12:09 ` Pavel Machek
2009-08-10 16:36   ` Greg KH
2009-08-10 15:54     ` Pavel Machek
2009-08-12  1:20       ` Kay Sievers
2009-08-12 21:33 ` Robert Schwebel
2009-08-12 22:08   ` Greg KH
2009-08-13  8:25   ` Xavier Bestel
2009-08-13  8:55     ` Robert Schwebel
2009-08-13  2:18 ` Ming Lei
2009-08-13  2:53   ` Greg KH

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