From: Kay Sievers <kay.sievers@vrfy.org>
To: Chris Friesen <cfriesen@nortel.com>
Cc: Greg KH <greg@kroah.com>, Al Boldi <a1426z@gawab.com>,
Andi Kleen <andi@firstfloor.org>,
Alan Cox <alan@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk>,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, Jan Blunck <jblunck@suse.de>,
gregkh@suse.de, Harald Hoyer <harald@redhat.com>,
Scott James Remnant <scott@ubuntu.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] Driver Core: devtmpfs - kernel-maintained tmpfs-based /dev
Date: Fri, 7 Aug 2009 18:06:15 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <ac3eb2510908070906v147e07a3h86b266ffc2224b08@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4A7C4D6C.6050101@nortel.com>
On Fri, Aug 7, 2009 at 17:51, Chris Friesen<cfriesen@nortel.com> wrote:
> Greg KH wrote:
>> On Fri, Aug 07, 2009 at 08:04:08AM +0300, Al Boldi wrote:
>
>>> The question is, how fast can devtmpfs get the device list from the kernel on
>>> bootup? How much faster than udev? How much slower than static /dev?
>>
>> It's much faster than udev, and is equivalent to a static /dev with the
>> exception that the group and permission settings that you are used to.
>> udev then needs to come along and make those settings, but that's so
>> frickin fast it's amazing.
>
> Earlier in the thread you indicated a 0.5sec speedup over udev. Is that
> really considered "much faster"?
The kernel boots up and mounts the root filesystem in less than a
second these days. :)
> I do agree that it makes sense to do this, but more from an elegance
> view than a performance one.
That's right. The possible speedups are mainly a side-effect of the
simplicity we get by having the kernel providing us the the nodes
without having hard userspace synchronization points early at bootup.
The init=/bin/sh with a fully working and correctly, regarding the
dynamic major/minor numbers, populated /dev is alone reason enough to
do that, I think.
Also things like "modprobe loop; losetup /dev/loop0" will just work,
which do not work reliably today without waiting for userspace to
create the nodes.
Kay
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2009-08-07 16:06 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 78+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2009-08-05 17:15 Greg KH
2009-08-05 17:43 ` David Vrabel
2009-08-05 17:55 ` Greg KH
2009-08-05 18:20 ` Alan Cox
2009-08-05 18:28 ` Greg KH
2009-08-05 18:51 ` Greg KH
2009-08-06 15:46 ` Andi Kleen
2009-08-06 16:20 ` David Dillow
2009-08-06 17:10 ` Andi Kleen
2009-08-06 18:31 ` Greg KH
2009-08-07 15:47 ` Phil Turmel
2009-08-08 23:07 ` David Dillow
2009-08-10 15:39 ` Greg KH
2009-08-11 14:36 ` David Dillow
2009-08-11 14:55 ` Andi Kleen
2009-08-12 0:04 ` Marcel Holtmann
2009-08-12 0:25 ` David Dillow
2009-08-12 0:34 ` Greg KH
2009-08-12 4:31 ` Arjan van de Ven
2009-08-12 12:56 ` David Dillow
2009-08-12 13:44 ` Greg KH
2009-08-12 14:09 ` Arjan van de Ven
2009-08-12 15:25 ` Greg KH
2009-08-12 14:39 ` David Dillow
2009-08-12 15:26 ` Greg KH
2009-08-12 15:57 ` David Dillow
2009-08-12 7:31 ` Andi Kleen
2009-08-12 12:50 ` David Dillow
2009-08-12 14:07 ` Arjan van de Ven
2009-08-12 14:14 ` Andi Kleen
2009-08-10 9:04 ` Scott James Remnant
2009-08-06 17:06 ` Al Boldi
2009-08-06 17:15 ` Kay Sievers
2009-08-06 17:27 ` Al Boldi
2009-08-06 17:31 ` Kay Sievers
2009-08-06 18:36 ` Greg KH
2009-08-06 20:18 ` Al Boldi
2009-08-06 20:49 ` Greg KH
2009-08-07 4:03 ` Al Boldi
2009-08-07 4:25 ` Greg KH
2009-08-07 5:04 ` Al Boldi
2009-08-07 5:20 ` Greg KH
2009-08-07 12:49 ` Al Boldi
2009-08-07 15:13 ` Greg KH
2009-08-07 15:51 ` Chris Friesen
2009-08-07 16:06 ` Kay Sievers [this message]
2009-08-07 21:17 ` Al Boldi
2009-08-07 22:24 ` Greg KH
2009-08-08 9:14 ` Al Boldi
2009-08-08 17:11 ` Greg KH
2009-08-08 18:55 ` Al Boldi
2009-08-10 15:40 ` Greg KH
2009-08-11 3:48 ` Al Boldi
2009-08-11 4:04 ` Greg KH
2009-08-11 15:18 ` Al Boldi
2009-08-11 15:49 ` Greg KH
2009-08-11 16:04 ` Chris Friesen
2009-08-11 16:51 ` Greg KH
2009-08-12 4:25 ` Al Boldi
2009-08-10 9:01 ` Scott James Remnant
2009-08-10 12:05 ` Al Boldi
2009-08-10 12:39 ` Scott James Remnant
2009-08-10 9:22 ` Harald Hoyer
2009-08-08 22:19 ` Arjan van de Ven
2009-08-05 20:55 ` Alan Jenkins
2009-08-06 0:06 ` Greg KH
2009-08-06 0:19 ` Kay Sievers
2009-08-07 0:27 ` Greg KH
2009-08-09 12:09 ` Pavel Machek
2009-08-10 16:36 ` Greg KH
2009-08-10 15:54 ` Pavel Machek
2009-08-12 1:20 ` Kay Sievers
2009-08-12 21:33 ` Robert Schwebel
2009-08-12 22:08 ` Greg KH
2009-08-13 8:25 ` Xavier Bestel
2009-08-13 8:55 ` Robert Schwebel
2009-08-13 2:18 ` Ming Lei
2009-08-13 2:53 ` Greg KH
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