From: Al Boldi <a1426z@gawab.com>
To: Kay Sievers <kay.sievers@vrfy.org>
Cc: Andi Kleen <andi@firstfloor.org>, Greg KH <greg@kroah.com>,
Alan Cox <alan@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk>,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, Jan Blunck <jblunck@suse.de>,
gregkh@suse.de, Harald Hoyer <harald@redhat.com>,
Scott James Remnant <scott@ubuntu.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] Driver Core: devtmpfs - kernel-maintained tmpfs-based /dev
Date: Thu, 6 Aug 2009 20:27:09 +0300 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <200908062027.09413.a1426z@gawab.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <ac3eb2510908061015p1c7fd544hc8d8e5bdac738c08@mail.gmail.com>
Kay Sievers wrote:
> On Thu, Aug 6, 2009 at 19:06, Al Boldi<a1426z@gawab.com> wrote:
> > Andi Kleen wrote:
> >> Greg KH <greg@kroah.com> writes:
> >> > It makes the userspace boot process much simpler and easier to
> >> > maintain, as well as providing a way to handle rescue disks and images
> >> > trivially, and it makes the kernel _less_ dependant on the early
> >> > userspace bootup scripts.
> >>
> >> As a initrd less kernel user I can really only agree: getting rid
> >> of the udev-in-initrd requirement would be a big step forward
> >> in usability. Typically I always have to pre populate
> >> a on disk /dev manually first to get my kernels to boot.
> >
> > Oh good, I thought I was the only one doing that.
> >
> > The reason I don't like udev is that it's just to slow; something like a
> > 5-10s delay on each boot. No idea why it should be so slow,
>
> Because you setup is broken, I guess.
>
> > but it's probably
> > probing the kernel for all available devices at boot, when it could be
> > much quicker by probing for the device on access.
>
> It takes more like 0.5 - 0.7 seconds on a usual setup.
I don't know about your setup, but all dists I used (fedora, mandriva, ubuntu,
debian) hang every boot for 5-10s.
Are you saying devtmpfs has the same delay as udev?
Thanks!
--
Al
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2009-08-06 17:26 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 78+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2009-08-05 17:15 Greg KH
2009-08-05 17:43 ` David Vrabel
2009-08-05 17:55 ` Greg KH
2009-08-05 18:20 ` Alan Cox
2009-08-05 18:28 ` Greg KH
2009-08-05 18:51 ` Greg KH
2009-08-06 15:46 ` Andi Kleen
2009-08-06 16:20 ` David Dillow
2009-08-06 17:10 ` Andi Kleen
2009-08-06 18:31 ` Greg KH
2009-08-07 15:47 ` Phil Turmel
2009-08-08 23:07 ` David Dillow
2009-08-10 15:39 ` Greg KH
2009-08-11 14:36 ` David Dillow
2009-08-11 14:55 ` Andi Kleen
2009-08-12 0:04 ` Marcel Holtmann
2009-08-12 0:25 ` David Dillow
2009-08-12 0:34 ` Greg KH
2009-08-12 4:31 ` Arjan van de Ven
2009-08-12 12:56 ` David Dillow
2009-08-12 13:44 ` Greg KH
2009-08-12 14:09 ` Arjan van de Ven
2009-08-12 15:25 ` Greg KH
2009-08-12 14:39 ` David Dillow
2009-08-12 15:26 ` Greg KH
2009-08-12 15:57 ` David Dillow
2009-08-12 7:31 ` Andi Kleen
2009-08-12 12:50 ` David Dillow
2009-08-12 14:07 ` Arjan van de Ven
2009-08-12 14:14 ` Andi Kleen
2009-08-10 9:04 ` Scott James Remnant
2009-08-06 17:06 ` Al Boldi
2009-08-06 17:15 ` Kay Sievers
2009-08-06 17:27 ` Al Boldi [this message]
2009-08-06 17:31 ` Kay Sievers
2009-08-06 18:36 ` Greg KH
2009-08-06 20:18 ` Al Boldi
2009-08-06 20:49 ` Greg KH
2009-08-07 4:03 ` Al Boldi
2009-08-07 4:25 ` Greg KH
2009-08-07 5:04 ` Al Boldi
2009-08-07 5:20 ` Greg KH
2009-08-07 12:49 ` Al Boldi
2009-08-07 15:13 ` Greg KH
2009-08-07 15:51 ` Chris Friesen
2009-08-07 16:06 ` Kay Sievers
2009-08-07 21:17 ` Al Boldi
2009-08-07 22:24 ` Greg KH
2009-08-08 9:14 ` Al Boldi
2009-08-08 17:11 ` Greg KH
2009-08-08 18:55 ` Al Boldi
2009-08-10 15:40 ` Greg KH
2009-08-11 3:48 ` Al Boldi
2009-08-11 4:04 ` Greg KH
2009-08-11 15:18 ` Al Boldi
2009-08-11 15:49 ` Greg KH
2009-08-11 16:04 ` Chris Friesen
2009-08-11 16:51 ` Greg KH
2009-08-12 4:25 ` Al Boldi
2009-08-10 9:01 ` Scott James Remnant
2009-08-10 12:05 ` Al Boldi
2009-08-10 12:39 ` Scott James Remnant
2009-08-10 9:22 ` Harald Hoyer
2009-08-08 22:19 ` Arjan van de Ven
2009-08-05 20:55 ` Alan Jenkins
2009-08-06 0:06 ` Greg KH
2009-08-06 0:19 ` Kay Sievers
2009-08-07 0:27 ` Greg KH
2009-08-09 12:09 ` Pavel Machek
2009-08-10 16:36 ` Greg KH
2009-08-10 15:54 ` Pavel Machek
2009-08-12 1:20 ` Kay Sievers
2009-08-12 21:33 ` Robert Schwebel
2009-08-12 22:08 ` Greg KH
2009-08-13 8:25 ` Xavier Bestel
2009-08-13 8:55 ` Robert Schwebel
2009-08-13 2:18 ` Ming Lei
2009-08-13 2:53 ` Greg KH
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