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From: Balbir Singh <balbir@linux.vnet.ibm.com>
To: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>
Cc: Andreas Herrmann <andreas.herrmann3@amd.com>,
	Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, Gautham Shenoy <ego@in.ibm.com>,
	"svaidy@linux.vnet.ibm.com" <svaidy@linux.vnet.ibm.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 11/15] sched: Pass unlimited __cpu_power information to upper domain level groups
Date: Mon, 24 Aug 2009 22:14:52 +0530	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20090824164452.GR29572@balbir.in.ibm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1251127297.7538.291.camel@twins>

* Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org> [2009-08-24 17:21:37]:

> On Thu, 2009-08-20 at 15:41 +0200, Andreas Herrmann wrote:
> > For performance reasons __cpu_power in a sched_group might be limited
> > such that the group can handle only one task. To correctly calculate
> > the capacity in upper domain level groups the unlimited power
> > information is required. This patch stores unlimited __cpu_power
> > information in sched_groups.orig_power and uses this when calculating
> > __cpu_power in upper domain level groups.
> 
> OK, so this tries to fix the cpu_power wreckage?
> 
> ok, so let me try this with an example:
> 
> 
> Suppose we have a dual-core with shared cache and SMT
> 
>   0-3     MC
> 0-1 2-3   SMT
> 
> Then both levels fancy setting SHARED_RESOURCES and both levels end up
> normalizing the cpu_power to 1, so when we unplug cpu 2, load-balancing
> gets all screwy because the whole system doesn't get normalized
> properly.
> 
> What you propose here is every time we muck with cpu_power we keep the
> real stuff in orig_power and use that to compute the level above.
> 
> Except you don't use it in the load-balancer proper, so normalization is
> still hosed.
> 
> Its a creative solution, but I'd rather see cpu_power returned to a
> straight sum of actual power to normalize the inter-cpu runqueue weights
> and do the placement decision using something else.

The real solution is to find a way to solve asymmetric load balancing,
I suppose. The asymmetry might be due to cores being hot-plugged for
example

-- 
	Balbir

  reply	other threads:[~2009-08-24 17:10 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 64+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2009-08-20 13:12 [RFC][PATCH 0/15] sched: Fix scheduling for multi-node processors Andreas Herrmann
2009-08-20 13:15 ` [PATCH 1/15] x86, sched: Add config option for multi-node CPU scheduling Andreas Herrmann
2009-08-21 13:50   ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2009-08-24  8:49     ` Andreas Herrmann
2009-08-20 13:34 ` [PATCH 2/15] sched, x86: Provide initializer for MN scheduling domain, define MN level Andreas Herrmann
2009-08-20 13:34 ` [PATCH 3/15] sched: Add cpumask to be used when building MN domain Andreas Herrmann
2009-08-20 13:35 ` [PATCH 4/15] sched: Define per CPU variables and cpu_to_group function for " Andreas Herrmann
2009-08-20 13:36 ` [PATCH 5/15] sched: Add function to build MN sched domain Andreas Herrmann
2009-08-20 13:37 ` [PATCH 6/15] sched: Add support for MN domain in build_sched_groups Andreas Herrmann
2009-08-20 13:38 ` [PATCH 7/15] sched: Activate build of MN domains Andreas Herrmann
2009-08-20 13:39 ` [PATCH 8/15] sched: Add parameter sched_mn_power_savings to control MN domain sched policy Andreas Herrmann
2009-08-24 14:56   ` Peter Zijlstra
2009-08-24 15:32     ` Vaidyanathan Srinivasan
2009-08-24 15:45       ` Peter Zijlstra
2009-08-25  7:52         ` Andreas Herrmann
2009-08-25  7:50       ` Andreas Herrmann
2009-08-25  6:24     ` Andreas Herrmann
2009-08-25  6:41       ` Peter Zijlstra
2009-08-25  8:38         ` Andreas Herrmann
2009-08-26  9:30   ` Gautham R Shenoy
2009-08-27 12:47     ` Andreas Herrmann
2009-08-20 13:40 ` [PATCH 9/15] sched: Check sched_mn_power_savings when setting flags for CPU and MN domains Andreas Herrmann
2009-08-24 14:57   ` Peter Zijlstra
2009-08-25  9:34     ` Gautham R Shenoy
2009-08-26 10:01   ` Gautham R Shenoy
2009-08-20 13:41 ` [PATCH 10/15] sched: Check for sched_mn_power_savings when doing load balancing Andreas Herrmann
2009-08-24 15:03   ` Peter Zijlstra
2009-08-24 15:40     ` Vaidyanathan Srinivasan
2009-08-25  8:00       ` Andreas Herrmann
2009-08-20 13:41 ` [PATCH 11/15] sched: Pass unlimited __cpu_power information to upper domain level groups Andreas Herrmann
2009-08-24 15:21   ` Peter Zijlstra
2009-08-24 16:44     ` Balbir Singh [this message]
2009-08-24 17:26       ` Peter Zijlstra
2009-08-24 18:19         ` Balbir Singh
2009-08-25  7:11           ` Peter Zijlstra
2009-08-25  8:04             ` Balbir Singh
2009-08-25  8:30               ` Peter Zijlstra
2009-08-25  8:51     ` Andreas Herrmann
2009-08-20 13:42 ` [PATCH 12/15] sched: Allow NODE domain to be parent of MC instead of CPU domain Andreas Herrmann
2009-08-24 15:32   ` Peter Zijlstra
2009-08-25  8:55     ` Andreas Herrmann
2009-08-20 13:43 ` [PATCH 13/15] sched: Detect child domain of NUMA (aka NODE) domain Andreas Herrmann
2009-08-24 15:34   ` Peter Zijlstra
2009-08-25  9:13     ` Andreas Herrmann
2009-08-20 13:45 ` [PATCH 14/15] sched: Conditionally limit __cpu_power when child sched domain has type NODE Andreas Herrmann
2009-08-24 15:35   ` Peter Zijlstra
2009-08-25  9:19     ` Andreas Herrmann
2009-08-20 13:46 ` [PATCH 15/15] x86: Fix cpu_coregroup_mask to return correct cpumask on multi-node processors Andreas Herrmann
2009-08-24 15:36   ` Peter Zijlstra
2009-08-24 18:21     ` Ingo Molnar
2009-08-25 10:13       ` Andreas Herrmann
2009-08-25 10:36         ` Ingo Molnar
2009-08-27 13:18           ` Andreas Herrmann
2009-08-25  9:31     ` Andreas Herrmann
2009-08-25  9:55       ` Peter Zijlstra
2009-08-25 10:20         ` Ingo Molnar
2009-08-25 10:24         ` Andreas Herrmann
2009-08-25 10:28           ` Ingo Molnar
2009-08-25 10:35           ` Peter Zijlstra
2009-08-27 15:42             ` Andreas Herrmann
2009-08-27 15:25         ` Andreas Herrmann
2009-08-28 10:39           ` Peter Zijlstra
2009-08-28 12:03             ` Andreas Herrmann
2009-08-28 12:50               ` Peter Zijlstra

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