From: Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>
To: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
Oleg Nesterov <oleg@redhat.com>,
Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>
Cc: Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
Anirban Sinha <ani@anirban.org>,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, Darren Hart <dvhltc@us.ibm.com>,
Kaz Kylheku <kaz@zeugmasystems.com>,
Anirban Sinha <asinha@zeugmasystems.com>
Subject: Re: futex question
Date: Mon, 5 Oct 2009 14:24:36 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20091005122436.GA5626@elte.hu> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1254745119.26976.43.camel@twins>
* Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org> wrote:
> On Mon, 2009-10-05 at 13:59 +0200, Thomas Gleixner wrote:
>
> > Stared at the same place a minute ago :) But still I wonder if it's
> > a good idea to silently release locks and set the state to OWNERDEAD
> > instead of hitting the app programmer with a big clue stick in case
> > the app holds locks when calling execve().
>
> Agreed, I rather like the feedback. With regular exit like things
> there's just not much we can do to avoid the mess, but here we can
> actually avoid it, seems a waste not to do so.
Well, exec() has been a 'exit() + boot-strap next process' kind of thing
from the get go - with little state carried over into the new task. This
has security and robustness reasons as well.
So i think exec() should release all existing state, unless told
otherwise. Making it behave differently for robust futexes sounds
assymetric to me.
It might make sense though - a 'prevent exec because you are holding
locks!' thing. Dunno.
Cc:-ed a few execve() semantics experts who might want to chime in.
If a (buggy) app calls execve() with a (robust) futex still held should
we auto-force-release robust locks held, or fail the exec with an error
code? I think the forced release is a 'anomalous exit' thing mostly,
while calling exec() is not anomalous at all.
Ingo
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2009-10-05 12:25 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 26+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2009-09-30 1:10 Anirban Sinha
2009-10-01 9:22 ` Ingo Molnar
2009-10-01 16:54 ` Anirban Sinha
2009-10-01 23:46 ` Anirban Sinha
2009-10-02 23:38 ` Darren Hart
2009-10-03 0:36 ` Anirban Sinha
2009-10-03 4:14 ` Eric Dumazet
2009-10-04 8:44 ` Thomas Gleixner
[not found] ` <DDFD17CC94A9BD49A82147DDF7D545C501F457C5@exchange.ZeugmaSystems.local>
2009-10-04 16:37 ` Anirban Sinha
2009-10-04 16:59 ` Thomas Gleixner
2009-10-05 10:36 ` Peter Zijlstra
2009-10-05 10:56 ` Thomas Gleixner
2009-10-05 11:16 ` Peter Zijlstra
2009-10-05 11:19 ` Ingo Molnar
2009-10-05 11:50 ` Thomas Gleixner
2009-10-05 11:47 ` Thomas Gleixner
2009-10-05 13:11 ` Anirban Sinha
2009-10-05 13:28 ` Thomas Gleixner
2009-10-05 14:03 ` Anirban Sinha
2009-10-05 18:36 ` Anirban Sinha
2009-10-05 11:58 ` Peter Zijlstra
2009-10-05 11:59 ` Thomas Gleixner
2009-10-05 12:18 ` Peter Zijlstra
2009-10-05 12:24 ` Ingo Molnar [this message]
2009-10-05 14:09 ` Darren Hart
2009-10-05 18:11 ` Anirban Sinha
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