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From: Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>
To: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>
Cc: Frederic Weisbecker <fweisbec@gmail.com>,
	LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo <acme@redhat.com>,
	Mike Galbraith <efault@gmx.de>, Paul Mackerras <paulus@samba.org>,
	Steven Rostedt <rostedt@goodmis.org>,
	Li Zefan <lizf@cn.fujitsu.com>,
	Hitoshi Mitake <mitake@dcl.info.waseda.ac.jp>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] tracing: Rename lockdep event subsystem into lock
Date: Fri, 13 Nov 2009 10:26:12 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20091113092612.GA26185@elte.hu> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1258103409.4039.1079.camel@laptop>


* Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org> wrote:

> On Fri, 2009-11-13 at 10:06 +0100, Frederic Weisbecker wrote:
> > Lockdep events subsystem gathers various locking related events such
> > as a request, release, contention or acquisition of a lock.
> > 
> > The name of this event subsystem is a bit of a misnomer since these 
> > events are not quite related to lockdep but more generally to 
> > locking, ie: these events are not reporting lock dependencies or 
> > possible deadlock scenario but pure locking events.
> 
> But in order to get them you need pretty much all of lockdep, except 
> PROVE_LOCKING. You get all the lock debugging, the lock tracking, the 
> struct dep_map bloat etc.
> 
> But sure, I don't mind renaming the category.

Yeah, i'd prefer it this way. You are right that most of lockdep.o is 
still there, but most of the lockdep _overhead_ shouldnt be there - no 
hashing, no tracking, etc.

it's still nonzero - see 'perf top' of a hackbench session, with 
LOCK_STAT enabled and PROVE_LOCKING disabled:

------------------------------------------------------------------------------
   PerfTop:   14059 irqs/sec  kernel:99.8% [1000Hz cycles],  (all, 16 CPUs)
------------------------------------------------------------------------------

             samples  pcnt function                                 DSO
             _______ _____ ________________________________ ________________

             7320.00  7.9% sched_clock_local                [kernel]
             7217.00  7.8% lock_acquired                    [kernel]
             5768.00  6.2% trace_hardirqs_off               [kernel]
             4562.00  4.9% __lock_acquire                   [kernel]
             4304.00  4.6% lock_release                     [kernel]
             3838.00  4.1% lock_acquire                     [kernel]
             3833.00  4.1% look_up_lock_class               [kernel]
             3561.00  3.8% cpu_clock                        [kernel]
             3283.00  3.5% start_critical_timing            [kernel]
             2992.00  3.2% __alloc_skb                      [kernel]
             2680.00  2.9% acpi_pm_read                     [kernel]
             2498.00  2.7% sched_clock                      [kernel]
             2409.00  2.6% copy_user_generic_string         [kernel]
             2016.00  2.2% lock_release_holdtime            [kernel]
             1899.00  2.0% sched_clock_cpu                  [kernel]

but i think those should be gradually eliminated and improved, as lock 
statistics could become a quite popular thing.

If the tracepoints are named 'lock', people will expect less overhead, 
and might end up fixing/improving it. If it's named 'lockdep' on the 
other hand, the expectation is higher overhead.

	Ingo

  reply	other threads:[~2009-11-13  9:26 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 32+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2009-11-12  6:43 [PATCH][RFC] Measuring term of acquiring spinlock Hitoshi Mitake
2009-11-12  7:39 ` Ingo Molnar
2009-11-13  4:21   ` Hitoshi Mitake
2009-11-13  8:17     ` Ingo Molnar
2009-11-13  8:24       ` Peter Zijlstra
2009-11-13  8:40       ` Frederic Weisbecker
2009-11-13  8:51         ` Ingo Molnar
2009-11-13  9:06           ` [PATCH] tracing: Rename lockdep event subsystem into lock Frederic Weisbecker
2009-11-13  9:10             ` Peter Zijlstra
2009-11-13  9:26               ` Ingo Molnar [this message]
2009-11-13  9:36               ` Frederic Weisbecker
2009-11-13  9:31             ` [tip:perf/core] tracing: Rename 'lockdep' event subsystem into 'lock' tip-bot for Frederic Weisbecker
2009-11-13  9:57             ` tip-bot for Frederic Weisbecker
2009-11-13 10:51     ` [PATCH][RFC] Measuring term of acquiring spinlock Frederic Weisbecker
2009-11-15  1:20       ` Hitoshi Mitake
2009-11-15  2:21         ` Frederic Weisbecker
2009-11-15  8:38           ` Hitoshi Mitake
2009-12-07  3:34           ` [PATCH 1/2] Does raw_field_ptr() supports __data_loc? Hitoshi Mitake
2009-12-07  4:02             ` Frederic Weisbecker
2009-12-07 16:09             ` Steven Rostedt
2009-12-07  3:34           ` [PATCH 2/2] perf lock: New subcommand "lock" to perf for analyzing lock statistics Hitoshi Mitake
2009-12-07  4:41             ` Frederic Weisbecker
2009-12-07  7:27               ` Ingo Molnar
2009-12-07  8:38                 ` Xiao Guangrong
2009-12-07 15:00                   ` Hitoshi Mitake
2009-12-07 16:38                   ` Steven Rostedt
2009-12-07 19:48                   ` Frederic Weisbecker
2009-12-07 19:57                     ` Frederic Weisbecker
2009-12-08  1:31                     ` Xiao Guangrong
2009-12-07 14:57                 ` Hitoshi Mitake
2009-12-07 14:51               ` Hitoshi Mitake
2009-12-07 20:16                 ` Frederic Weisbecker

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