From: Oleg Nesterov <oleg@redhat.com>
To: Andi Kleen <andi@firstfloor.org>
Cc: Alexey Dobriyan <adobriyan@gmail.com>,
Ananth Mavinakayanahalli <ananth@in.ibm.com>,
"Frank Ch. Eigler" <fche@redhat.com>, Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>,
Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
Roland McGrath <roland@redhat.com>,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, utrace-devel@redhat.com
Subject: Re: [RFC,PATCH 14/14] utrace core
Date: Tue, 24 Nov 2009 22:44:50 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20091124214450.GA12828@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20091124212619.GB29096@one.firstfloor.org>
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On 11/24, Andi Kleen wrote:
>
> On Tue, Nov 24, 2009 at 09:41:52PM +0100, Oleg Nesterov wrote:
> > On 11/24, Andi Kleen wrote:
> > >
> > > Oleg Nesterov <oleg@redhat.com> writes:
> > >
> > > > From: Roland McGrath <roland@redhat.com>
> > > >
> > > > This adds the utrace facility, a new modular interface in the kernel
> > > > for implementing user thread tracing and debugging. This fits on top
> > > > of the tracehook_* layer, so the new code is well-isolated.
> > >
> > > Could we just drop the tracehook layer if this finally merged
> > > and call the low level functions directly?
> >
> > Not sure I understand. Tracehooks are trivial inline wrappers on
> > top utrace calls,
>
> Yes that's the problem -- they are unnecessary obfuscation
> when you can just call directly.
This is subjective, but personally I disagree. Contrary, imho it
is good that tracehook hides the (simple) details. I do not understand
why the reader of, say, do_fork() should see the contents of
tracehook_report_clone_complete(). This will complicate the understanding.
Those people who want to understand/change fork() do not care about
utrace/ptrace usually.
And please note that it is much, much easier to change this code
when it lives in tracehooks.h instead of sched.c/signal.c/etc.
> > What is the point?
>
> Less code obfuscation.
>
> When it's a utrace call, call it a utrace call, not something else.
Why do you think this is obfuscation? Well, we can rename these
helpers, s/tracehook_/utrace_/, but I don't see how this can make
the code more readable.
Oleg.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2009-11-24 21:50 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 37+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2009-11-24 20:02 Oleg Nesterov
2009-11-24 20:32 ` Andi Kleen
2009-11-24 20:41 ` Oleg Nesterov
2009-11-24 21:26 ` Andi Kleen
2009-11-24 21:31 ` Frank Ch. Eigler
2009-11-24 21:34 ` Andi Kleen
2009-11-24 21:44 ` Oleg Nesterov [this message]
2009-11-25 8:46 ` Andi Kleen
2009-11-25 14:55 ` Oleg Nesterov
2009-11-25 16:00 ` Ingo Molnar
2009-11-25 21:50 ` Christoph Hellwig
2009-12-01 23:47 ` Roland McGrath
2009-12-01 19:54 ` Peter Zijlstra
2009-12-01 22:08 ` Oleg Nesterov
2009-12-07 18:34 ` Peter Zijlstra
2009-12-08 15:04 ` Oleg Nesterov
2009-12-08 15:29 ` Peter Zijlstra
2009-12-08 16:31 ` Oleg Nesterov
2009-12-08 18:19 ` Peter Zijlstra
2009-12-08 18:37 ` Oleg Nesterov
2009-12-13 20:48 ` Roland McGrath
2009-12-08 15:35 ` Peter Zijlstra
2009-12-08 17:51 ` Oleg Nesterov
2009-12-02 5:44 ` Roland McGrath
2009-12-02 18:34 ` Oleg Nesterov
2009-12-02 18:49 ` Oleg Nesterov
2009-12-05 19:14 ` Roland McGrath
2009-12-14 0:25 ` Roland McGrath
2009-12-14 13:51 ` Peter Zijlstra
2009-12-14 17:41 ` Oleg Nesterov
2009-12-14 19:31 ` Oleg Nesterov
2009-12-14 19:42 ` Roland McGrath
2009-12-16 11:18 ` Roland McGrath
2009-12-14 17:03 ` Oleg Nesterov
2009-12-14 19:44 ` Roland McGrath
2009-12-14 20:24 ` Oleg Nesterov
2009-12-15 2:59 ` Roland McGrath
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