From: Oleg Nesterov <oleg@redhat.com>
To: Roland McGrath <roland@redhat.com>
Cc: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
Alexey Dobriyan <adobriyan@gmail.com>,
Ananth Mavinakayanahalli <ananth@in.ibm.com>,
Christoph Hellwig <hch@infradead.org>,
"Frank Ch. Eigler" <fche@redhat.com>, Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, utrace-devel@redhat.com
Subject: Re: [RFC,PATCH 14/14] utrace core
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 2009 18:03:27 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20091214170327.GA7666@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20091214002533.3052519@magilla.sf.frob.com>
On 12/13, Roland McGrath wrote:
>
> > Its not entirely clear why we can check pending_attach outside of the
> > utrace->lock and not be racy.
>
> I think it can be racy sometimes but that does not matter.
> Maybe Oleg can verify my logic here. If it's right, he can
> add some comments to make it more clear.
>
> There is only a very limited sort of "timeliness" guarantee about
> getting your callbacks after utrace_attach_task()+utrace_set_events().
> If you know somehow that the task was definitely still in TASK_STOPPED
> or TASK_TRACED after utrace_attach_task() returned, then your engine
> gets all possible callbacks starting from when it resumes. Otherwise,
> you can use utrace_control() with UTRACE_REPORT to ask to get some
> callback "pretty soon". The only callback events you are ever 100%
> guaranteed about (after success return from utrace_set_events()) are for
> DEATH and REAP, which have an unconditional lock-and-check before making
> engine callbacks.
Yes, I think this is correct. It is fine to miss ->pending_attach == T,
and in any case the new attacher can come right after the check, even
if it was checked under utrace->lock.
It is important that the tracee can't miss, say, UTRACE_REPORT request
(as you already explained), and every time the tracee clears ->resume
it calls splice_attaching().
> In the stopped cases, there are lots of locks and barriers and things
> after resuming. (Oleg?)
Every time the tracee resumes after TASK_TRACED it uses utrace->lock
to synchronize with utrace_control/etc, it must see any changes.
Oleg.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2009-12-14 17:09 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 37+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2009-11-24 20:02 Oleg Nesterov
2009-11-24 20:32 ` Andi Kleen
2009-11-24 20:41 ` Oleg Nesterov
2009-11-24 21:26 ` Andi Kleen
2009-11-24 21:31 ` Frank Ch. Eigler
2009-11-24 21:34 ` Andi Kleen
2009-11-24 21:44 ` Oleg Nesterov
2009-11-25 8:46 ` Andi Kleen
2009-11-25 14:55 ` Oleg Nesterov
2009-11-25 16:00 ` Ingo Molnar
2009-11-25 21:50 ` Christoph Hellwig
2009-12-01 23:47 ` Roland McGrath
2009-12-01 19:54 ` Peter Zijlstra
2009-12-01 22:08 ` Oleg Nesterov
2009-12-07 18:34 ` Peter Zijlstra
2009-12-08 15:04 ` Oleg Nesterov
2009-12-08 15:29 ` Peter Zijlstra
2009-12-08 16:31 ` Oleg Nesterov
2009-12-08 18:19 ` Peter Zijlstra
2009-12-08 18:37 ` Oleg Nesterov
2009-12-13 20:48 ` Roland McGrath
2009-12-08 15:35 ` Peter Zijlstra
2009-12-08 17:51 ` Oleg Nesterov
2009-12-02 5:44 ` Roland McGrath
2009-12-02 18:34 ` Oleg Nesterov
2009-12-02 18:49 ` Oleg Nesterov
2009-12-05 19:14 ` Roland McGrath
2009-12-14 0:25 ` Roland McGrath
2009-12-14 13:51 ` Peter Zijlstra
2009-12-14 17:41 ` Oleg Nesterov
2009-12-14 19:31 ` Oleg Nesterov
2009-12-14 19:42 ` Roland McGrath
2009-12-16 11:18 ` Roland McGrath
2009-12-14 17:03 ` Oleg Nesterov [this message]
2009-12-14 19:44 ` Roland McGrath
2009-12-14 20:24 ` Oleg Nesterov
2009-12-15 2:59 ` Roland McGrath
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