From: Hedi Berriche <hedi@sgi.com>
To: Greg KH <gregkh@suse.de>
Cc: Alan Cox <alan@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk>, Mike Travis <travis@sgi.com>,
Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>,
Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>,
Jack Steiner <steiner@sgi.com>,
Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
Robin Holt <holt@sgi.com>, LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [Patch 1/1] init: Provide a kernel start parameter to increase pid_max v2
Date: Wed, 21 Apr 2010 21:12:17 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20100421201216.GW16427@zorg.emea.sgi.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20100421195106.GA15958@suse.de>
On Wed, Apr 21, 2010 at 20:52 Greg KH wrote:
| On Wed, Apr 21, 2010 at 08:12:13PM +0100, Hedi Berriche wrote:
| > Let's also not forget all those ephemeral user space tasks (udev and the likes)
| > that will be spawned at boot time on even large systems with even more
| > thousands of disks, arguably one might consider hack initrd and similar to work
| > around the problem and set pid_max as soon as /proc becomes available but it's
| > a bit of a PITA.
|
| udev should properly handle large numbers of cpus and the tasks that it
| spawns so as to not overload things. If not, and you feel it is
| creating too many tasks, please let the udev developers know and they
| will be glad to work with you on this issue.
Just to be clear here --and be done with the udev parenthesis-- we kind of need
udev to take advantage of the fact that there's a large number of CPUs on the
machine especially on in the case of a config with thousands of disks, as that
shortens the time required to have a box in a working state with all disks
available and all.
IOW, I am not after throttling or serialising udev, just mentioned it as an
example of user space beast that can contribute --in the current state of things--
to the need of having a large number of pid_max on certain configurations.
That said I do realise that bit too should be looked at and any problems, as you
quite rightly pointed out, should be discussed with the udev chaps.
Cheers,
Hedi.
--
Be careful of reading health books, you might die of a misprint.
-- Mark Twain
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2010-04-21 20:12 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 32+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2010-04-21 1:40 [Patch 1/1] init: Provide a kernel start parameter to increase pid_max Mike Travis
2010-04-21 1:52 ` [Patch 1/1] init: Provide a kernel start parameter to increase pid_max v2 Mike Travis
2010-04-21 9:23 ` Alan Cox
2010-04-21 16:59 ` Hedi Berriche
2010-04-21 17:18 ` Rik van Riel
2010-04-21 17:54 ` Mike Travis
2010-04-21 19:14 ` John Stoffel
2010-04-21 19:33 ` Hedi Berriche
2010-04-21 20:10 ` John Stoffel
2010-04-21 22:24 ` Greg KH
2010-04-21 22:49 ` Rik van Riel
2010-04-21 23:22 ` Greg KH
2010-04-22 9:28 ` Alan Cox
2010-04-22 12:58 ` Jack Steiner
2010-04-22 13:57 ` Robin Holt
2010-04-22 14:48 ` Linus Torvalds
2010-04-22 17:08 ` Robin Holt
2010-04-22 18:10 ` John Stoffel
2010-04-22 20:35 ` Andrew Morton
2010-04-25 7:16 ` Pavel Machek
2010-04-25 17:15 ` Linus Torvalds
2010-04-25 17:27 ` Linus Torvalds
2010-04-25 12:13 ` Pavel Machek
2010-04-26 19:48 ` [Patch 1/1] init: Provide a kernel start parameter to increase pid_max v3 Mike Travis
2010-04-26 20:46 ` Greg KH
2010-04-27 0:43 ` Mike Travis
2010-04-27 0:42 ` [Patch 1/1] init: Increase pid_max based on num_possible_cpus v4 Mike Travis
2010-04-21 17:58 ` [Patch 1/1] init: Provide a kernel start parameter to increase pid_max v2 Alan Cox
2010-04-21 19:12 ` Hedi Berriche
2010-04-21 19:51 ` Greg KH
2010-04-21 20:12 ` Hedi Berriche [this message]
2010-04-21 22:05 ` Jack Steiner
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