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From: Mike Travis <travis@sgi.com>
To: Rik van Riel <riel@redhat.com>
Cc: Hedi Berriche <hedi@sgi.com>, Alan Cox <alan@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk>,
	Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>, Greg Kroah-Hartman <gregkh@suse.de>,
	Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>,
	Jack Steiner <steiner@sgi.com>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Robin Holt <holt@sgi.com>, LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [Patch 1/1] init: Provide a kernel start parameter to increase pid_max v2
Date: Wed, 21 Apr 2010 10:54:22 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <4BCF3BCE.7050906@sgi.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4BCF336B.1050706@redhat.com>



Rik van Riel wrote:
> On 04/21/2010 12:59 PM, Hedi Berriche wrote:
>> On Wed, Apr 21, 2010 at 10:20 Alan Cox wrote:
>> |>  of 32k will not be enough.  A system with 1664 CPU's, there are 
>> 25163 processes
>> |>  started before the login prompt.  It's estimated that with 2048 
>> CPU's we will pass
>> |
>> | Is that perhaps the bug not the 32K limit?
>>
>> Doubt it: I just checked on an *idle* 1664 CPUs system and I can see 
>> 26844
>> tasks, all but few being kernel threads.
> 
> That is 15 kernel threads per CPU.
> 
> Reducing the number of kernel threads sounds like a
> useful thing to do.

I'm doing more research but all the udev modprobes seem to spawn
quite a few tasks.  And even though they go away, when the pid
pool is limited, I'm guessing many of them are waiting.

On the last test I did yesterday, the pid # was up in the 77000
range at the login prompt (I started the 1664 cpu system with
pid_max=128k).

  reply	other threads:[~2010-04-21 17:54 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 32+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2010-04-21  1:40 [Patch 1/1] init: Provide a kernel start parameter to increase pid_max Mike Travis
2010-04-21  1:52 ` [Patch 1/1] init: Provide a kernel start parameter to increase pid_max v2 Mike Travis
2010-04-21  9:23   ` Alan Cox
2010-04-21 16:59     ` Hedi Berriche
2010-04-21 17:18       ` Rik van Riel
2010-04-21 17:54         ` Mike Travis [this message]
2010-04-21 19:14         ` John Stoffel
2010-04-21 19:33           ` Hedi Berriche
2010-04-21 20:10             ` John Stoffel
2010-04-21 22:24               ` Greg KH
2010-04-21 22:49                 ` Rik van Riel
2010-04-21 23:22                   ` Greg KH
2010-04-22  9:28                     ` Alan Cox
2010-04-22 12:58                       ` Jack Steiner
2010-04-22 13:57                       ` Robin Holt
2010-04-22 14:48                       ` Linus Torvalds
2010-04-22 17:08                         ` Robin Holt
2010-04-22 18:10                           ` John Stoffel
2010-04-22 20:35                           ` Andrew Morton
2010-04-25  7:16                         ` Pavel Machek
2010-04-25 17:15                           ` Linus Torvalds
2010-04-25 17:27                             ` Linus Torvalds
2010-04-25 12:13                               ` Pavel Machek
2010-04-26 19:48                             ` [Patch 1/1] init: Provide a kernel start parameter to increase pid_max v3 Mike Travis
2010-04-26 20:46                               ` Greg KH
2010-04-27  0:43                                 ` Mike Travis
2010-04-27  0:42                               ` [Patch 1/1] init: Increase pid_max based on num_possible_cpus v4 Mike Travis
2010-04-21 17:58       ` [Patch 1/1] init: Provide a kernel start parameter to increase pid_max v2 Alan Cox
2010-04-21 19:12         ` Hedi Berriche
2010-04-21 19:51           ` Greg KH
2010-04-21 20:12             ` Hedi Berriche
2010-04-21 22:05           ` Jack Steiner

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