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From: Dominik Brodowski <linux@dominikbrodowski.net>
To: Nigel Cunningham <ncunningham@crca.org.au>
Cc: Nigel Cunningham <nigel@tuxonice.net>,
	Suresh Siddha <suresh.b.siddha@intel.com>,
	Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
	Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>, Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
	Arjan van de Ven <arjan@linux.jf.intel.com>,
	Venkatesh Pallipadi <venki@google.com>,
	Vaidyanathan Srinivasan <svaidy@linux.vnet.ibm.com>,
	ego@in.ibm.com, LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [patch 0/7] sched: change nohz idle load balancing logic to push model
Date: Thu, 20 May 2010 14:13:55 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20100520121355.GA13163@isilmar-3.linta.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4BF51E93.4030601@crca.org.au>

Hey

On Thu, May 20, 2010 at 09:35:47PM +1000, Nigel Cunningham wrote:
> On 20/05/10 21:17, Dominik Brodowski wrote:
>> Hey,
>>
>> On Thu, May 20, 2010 at 09:07:42PM +1000, Nigel Cunningham wrote:
>>> "Load balancing tick" is still number one in my powertop list of top
>>> causes of wakeups (sitting at ~60 to 80 per second as I type this, with
>>> ~170 wakeups per second total). Comparing this to the numbers I posted
>>> earlier, we seem to have a win.
>>>
>>> I do wonder, though, whether further work could still be done. If I take
>>> one core offline, for example, I'm still getting load balancing ticks.
>>> Intuitively, I'd expect there to be no need for them with only one core
>>> available. But maybe I'm just ignorant of what's going on.
>>
>> Are you using HZ=1000, and is the CPU active ~ 6-8 % ? If so, is it just the
>> regular timer tick while the CPU is active, and so not a real "wakeup"? (Or
>> possibly double the number if both CPUs are active)
>
> HZ is 1000, and the CPU running percentage in Powertop is low (2% when  
> I'm not typing).

Still, that'd count for up to 4 % of the reported ticks. On my system, this
phenomenon accounts pretty much for the events powertop calls "load balancin
ticks". I wonder whether user- or kernelspace should be more smart to not
consider something a wakeup event if it wasn't a wakeup, i.e. to ignore
timer events from timer_stat / powertop if the CPU wasn't actually idle...

Best,
	Dominik

      reply	other threads:[~2010-05-20 12:14 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 28+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2010-05-17 18:27 Suresh Siddha
2010-05-17 18:27 ` [patch 1/7] softirq: Add a no local fallback option to send_remote_softirq Suresh Siddha
2010-05-17 18:27 ` [patch 2/7] softirq: add init_remote_softirq_csd() Suresh Siddha
2010-05-17 18:27 ` [patch 3/7] softirq: avoid softirq_work_list for SCHED_SOFTIRQ when sent remotely Suresh Siddha
2010-05-20  8:12   ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-05-20  8:14     ` David Miller
2010-05-20  8:23       ` Jens Axboe
2010-05-20  8:29         ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-05-20  9:18         ` David Miller
2010-05-17 18:27 ` [patch 4/7] sched: Change nohz ilb logic from pull to push model Suresh Siddha
2010-06-01 23:47   ` Vaidyanathan Srinivasan
2010-06-02 22:27     ` Suresh Siddha
2010-05-17 18:27 ` [patch 5/7] sched: Change select_nohz_load_balancer to return void Suresh Siddha
2010-05-17 18:27 ` [patch 6/7] sched: change nohz.load_balancer to be nr_cpu_ids based Suresh Siddha
2010-05-20  9:49   ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-05-17 18:27 ` [patch 7/7] timers: use nearest busy cpu for migrating timers from an idle cpu Suresh Siddha
2010-06-01 23:37   ` Vaidyanathan Srinivasan
2010-06-02 22:02     ` Suresh Siddha
2010-05-17 22:39 ` [patch 0/7] sched: change nohz idle load balancing logic to push model Nigel Cunningham
2010-05-19  9:19   ` Dominik Brodowski
2010-05-20 10:50 ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-05-22  0:09   ` Suresh Siddha
2010-05-31  9:17     ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-06-09 10:13     ` [tip:sched/core] sched: Change " tip-bot for Venkatesh Pallipadi
2010-05-20 11:07 ` [patch 0/7] sched: change " Nigel Cunningham
2010-05-20 11:17   ` Dominik Brodowski
2010-05-20 11:35     ` Nigel Cunningham
2010-05-20 12:13       ` Dominik Brodowski [this message]

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