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From: "Paul E. McKenney" <paulmck@linux.vnet.ibm.com>
To: Milton Miller <miltonm@bga.com>
Cc: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
	akpm@linux-foundation.org, Anton Blanchard <anton@samba.org>,
	xiaoguangrong@cn.fujitsu.com, mingo@elte.hu, jaxboe@fusionio.com,
	npiggin@gmail.com, JBeulich@novell.com, efault@gmx.de,
	rusty@rustcorp.com.au, torvalds@linux-foundation.org,
	benh@kernel.crashing.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 1/3 v2] call_function_many: fix list delete vs add race
Date: Sun, 6 Feb 2011 15:51:36 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20110206235136.GA23658@linux.vnet.ibm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20110202041740.GB2129@linux.vnet.ibm.com>

On Tue, Feb 01, 2011 at 08:17:40PM -0800, Paul E. McKenney wrote:
> On Tue, Feb 01, 2011 at 02:00:26PM -0800, Milton Miller wrote:
> > On Tue, 1 Feb 2011 about 14:00:26 -0800, "Paul E. McKenney" wrote:
> > > On Tue, Feb 01, 2011 at 01:12:18AM -0600, Milton Miller wrote:

[ . . . ]

> > > 	o	If the bit is set, then we need to process this callback.
> > > 		IRQs are disabled, so we cannot race with ourselves
> > > 		-- our bit will remain set until we clear it.
> > > 		The list_add_rcu() in smp_call_function_many()
> > > 		in conjunction with the list_for_each_entry_rcu()
> > > 		in generic_smp_call_function_interrupt() guarantees
> > > 		that all of the field except for ->refs will be seen as
> > > 		initialized in the common case where we are looking at
> > > 		an callback that has just been enqueued.
> > > 
> > > 		In the uncommon case where we picked up the pointer
> > > 		in list_for_each_entry_rcu() just before the last
> > > 		CPU removed the callback and when someone else
> > > 		immediately recycled it, all bets are off.  We must
> > > 		ensure that we see all initialization via some other
> > > 		means.
> > > 
> > > 		OK, so where is the memory barrier that pairs with the
> > > 		smp_rmb() between the ->cpumask and ->refs checks?
> > > 		It must be before the assignment to ->cpumask.  One
> > > 		candidate is the smp_mb() in csd_lock(), but that does
> > > 		not make much sense.  What we need to do is to ensure
> > > 		that if we see our bit in ->cpumask, that we also see
> > > 		the atomic decrement that previously zeroed ->refs.
> > 
> > We have a full mb in csd_unlock on the cpu that zeroed refs and a full
> > mb in csd_lock on the cpu that sets mask and later refs.
> > 
> > We rely on the atomic returns to order the two atomics, and the 
> > atomic_dec_return to establish a single cpu as the last.  After
> > that atomic is performed we do a full mb in unlock.   At this
> > point all cpus must have visibility to all this prior processing.
> > On the owning cpu we then do a full mb in lock.
> > 
> > How can any of the second party writes after the paired mb in lock be
> > visible and not all of the prior third party writes?
> 
> Because smp_rmb() is not required to order prior writes against
> subsequent reads.  The prior third-party writes are writes, right?
> When you want transitivity (observing n-th party writes that
> n-1-th party observed before n-1-th party's memory barrier), then
> you need a full memory barrier -- smp_mb().

FYI, for an example showing the need for smp_mb() to gain transitivity,
please see the following:

o	http://paulmck.livejournal.com/20061.html
o	http://paulmck.livejournal.com/20312.html

							Thanx, Paul

  reply	other threads:[~2011-02-06 23:51 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 50+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2011-01-12  4:07 [PATCH] smp_call_function_many SMP race Anton Blanchard
2011-01-17 18:17 ` Peter Zijlstra
2011-01-18 21:05   ` Milton Miller
2011-01-18 21:06     ` [PATCH 2/2] consolidate writes in smp_call_funtion_interrupt Milton Miller
2011-01-27 16:22       ` Peter Zijlstra
2011-01-27 21:59         ` Milton Miller
2011-01-29  0:20           ` call_function_many: fix list delete vs add race Milton Miller
2011-01-31  7:21             ` Mike Galbraith
2011-01-31 20:26               ` [PATCH] smp_call_function_many: handle concurrent clearing of mask Milton Miller
2011-02-01  3:15                 ` Mike Galbraith
2011-01-31 10:27             ` call_function_many: fix list delete vs add race Peter Zijlstra
2011-01-31 20:26               ` Milton Miller
2011-01-31 20:39                 ` Peter Zijlstra
2011-01-31 21:17             ` Peter Zijlstra
2011-01-31 21:36               ` Milton Miller
2011-02-01  0:22               ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2011-02-01  1:39                 ` Linus Torvalds
2011-02-01  2:18                   ` Paul E. McKenney
2011-02-01  2:43                     ` Linus Torvalds
2011-02-01  4:45                       ` Paul E. McKenney
2011-02-01  5:46                         ` Linus Torvalds
2011-02-01  6:18                           ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2011-02-01 14:13                           ` Paul E. McKenney
2011-02-01  6:16                       ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
     [not found]             ` <ipi-list-reply@mdm.bga.com>
2011-02-01  7:12               ` [PATCH 1/3 v2] " Milton Miller
2011-02-01 22:00                 ` Paul E. McKenney
2011-02-01 22:00                   ` Milton Miller
2011-02-02  4:17                     ` Paul E. McKenney
2011-02-06 23:51                       ` Paul E. McKenney [this message]
2011-03-15 19:27                         ` [PATCH 0/4 v3] smp_call_function_many issues from review Milton Miller
2011-03-15 20:22                           ` Luck, Tony
2011-03-15 20:32                             ` Dimitri Sivanich
2011-03-15 20:39                           ` Peter Zijlstra
2011-03-16 17:55                           ` Linus Torvalds
2011-03-16 18:13                             ` Peter Zijlstra
2011-03-17  3:15                           ` Mike Galbraith
2011-02-07  8:12                       ` [PATCH 1/3 v2] call_function_many: fix list delete vs add race Mike Galbraith
2011-02-08 19:36                         ` Paul E. McKenney
2011-08-21  6:17                           ` Mike Galbraith
2011-02-02  6:22                     ` Mike Galbraith
2011-02-01  7:12               ` [PATCH 2/3 v2] smp_call_function_many: handle concurrent clearing of mask Milton Miller
2011-03-15 19:27               ` [PATCH 1/4 v3] call_function_many: fix list delete vs add race Milton Miller
2011-03-15 19:27               ` [PATCH 2/4 v3] call_function_many: add missing ordering Milton Miller
2011-03-16 12:06                 ` Paul E. McKenney
2011-03-15 19:27               ` [PATCH 3/4 v3] smp_call_function_many: handle concurrent clearing of mask Milton Miller
2011-03-15 22:32                 ` Catalin Marinas
2011-03-16  7:52                 ` Jan Beulich
2011-03-15 19:27               ` [PATCH 4/4 v3] smp_call_function_interrupt: use typedef and %pf Milton Miller
2011-01-18 21:07     ` [PATCH 1/2] smp_call_function_many SMP race Milton Miller
2011-01-20  0:41       ` Andrew Morton

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