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From: KOSAKI Motohiro <kosaki.motohiro@jp.fujitsu.com>
To: Minchan Kim <minchan.kim@gmail.com>
Cc: kosaki.motohiro@jp.fujitsu.com, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	David Rientjes <rientjes@google.com>,
	Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>,
	Rik van Riel <riel@redhat.com>, Oleg Nesterov <oleg@redhat.com>,
	linux-mm <linux-mm@kvack.org>, Andrey Vagin <avagin@openvz.org>,
	Hugh Dickins <hughd@google.com>,
	KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki <kamezawa.hiroyu@jp.fujitsu.com>,
	Nick Piggin <npiggin@kernel.dk>,
	Johannes Weiner <hannes@cmpxchg.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 1/5] vmscan: remove all_unreclaimable check from direct reclaim path completely
Date: Thu, 24 Mar 2011 15:16:25 +0900 (JST)	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20110324151701.CC7F.A69D9226@jp.fujitsu.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTik0AUXX2O9-=7dpF2-_CovqXtqenieZA9HRanEc@mail.gmail.com>

Hi

> Thanks for your effort, Kosaki.
> But I still doubt this patch is good.
> 
> This patch makes early oom killing in hibernation as it skip
> all_unreclaimable check.
> Normally,  hibernation needs many memory so page_reclaim pressure
> would be big in small memory system. So I don't like early give up.

Wait. When occur big pressure? hibernation reclaim pressure
(sc->nr_to_recliam) depend on physical memory size. therefore
a pressure seems to don't depend on the size.


> Do you think my patch has a problem? Personally, I think it's very
> simple and clear. :)

To be honest, I dislike following parts. It's madness on madness.

	static bool zone_reclaimable(struct zone *zone)
	{
	        if (zone->all_unreclaimable)
	                return false;
	
	        return zone->pages_scanned < zone_reclaimable_pages(zone) * 6;
	}


The function require a reviewer know 

 o pages_scanned and all_unreclaimable are racy
 o at hibernation, zone->all_unreclaimable can be false negative,
   but can't be false positive.

And, a function comment of all_unreclaimable() says

	 /*
	  * As hibernation is going on, kswapd is freezed so that it can't mark
	  * the zone into all_unreclaimable. It can't handle OOM during hibernation.
	  * So let's check zone's unreclaimable in direct reclaim as well as kswapd.
	  */

But, now it is no longer copy of kswapd algorithm. 

If you strongly prefer this idea even if you hear above explanation,
please consider to add much and much comments. I can't say
current your patch is enough readable/reviewable.

Thanks.



  reply	other threads:[~2011-03-24  6:16 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 74+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2011-03-15  1:49 Linux 2.6.38 Linus Torvalds
2011-03-15  3:13 ` David Rientjes
2011-03-15  4:06   ` Steven Rostedt
2011-03-15  4:14   ` Linus Torvalds
2011-03-15  4:29     ` David Rientjes
2011-03-15  4:33   ` Andrew Morton
2011-03-15  4:50     ` David Rientjes
2011-03-15  6:21       ` Andrew Morton
2011-03-16  9:09         ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2011-03-22 11:04           ` [patch 0/5] oom: a few anti fork bomb patches KOSAKI Motohiro
2011-03-22 11:05             ` [PATCH 1/5] vmscan: remove all_unreclaimable check from direct reclaim path completely KOSAKI Motohiro
2011-03-22 14:49               ` Minchan Kim
2011-03-23  5:21                 ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2011-03-23  6:59                   ` Minchan Kim
2011-03-23  7:13                     ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2011-03-23  8:24                       ` Minchan Kim
2011-03-23  8:44                         ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2011-03-23  9:02                           ` Minchan Kim
2011-03-24  2:11                             ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2011-03-24  2:21                               ` Andrew Morton
2011-03-24  2:48                                 ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2011-03-24  3:04                                   ` Andrew Morton
2011-03-24  5:35                                     ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2011-03-24  4:19                               ` Minchan Kim
2011-03-24  5:35                                 ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2011-03-24  5:53                                   ` Minchan Kim
2011-03-24  6:16                                     ` KOSAKI Motohiro [this message]
2011-03-24  6:32                                       ` Minchan Kim
2011-03-24  7:03                                         ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2011-03-24  7:25                                           ` Minchan Kim
2011-03-24  7:28                                             ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2011-03-24  7:34                                               ` Minchan Kim
2011-03-24  7:41                                                 ` Minchan Kim
2011-03-24  7:43                                                 ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2011-03-24  7:43                                   ` Minchan Kim
2011-03-23  7:41               ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2011-03-23  7:55                 ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2011-03-22 11:08             ` [PATCH 3/5] oom: create oom autogroup KOSAKI Motohiro
2011-03-22 23:21               ` Minchan Kim
2011-03-23  1:27                 ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2011-03-23  2:41                   ` Mike Galbraith
2011-03-22 11:08             ` [PATCH 4/5] mm: introduce wait_on_page_locked_killable KOSAKI Motohiro
2011-03-23  7:44               ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2011-03-24 15:04               ` Minchan Kim
2011-03-22 11:09             ` [PATCH 5/5] x86,mm: make pagefault killable KOSAKI Motohiro
2011-03-23  7:49               ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2011-03-23  8:09                 ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2011-03-23 14:34                   ` Linus Torvalds
2011-03-24 15:10               ` Minchan Kim
2011-03-24 17:13               ` Oleg Nesterov
2011-03-24 17:34                 ` Linus Torvalds
2011-03-28  7:00                   ` KOSAKI Motohiro
     [not found]             ` <20110322200657.B064.A69D9226@jp.fujitsu.com>
     [not found]               ` <20110323164229.6b647004.kamezawa.hiroyu@jp.fujitsu.com>
2011-03-23 13:40                 ` [PATCH 2/5] Revert "oom: give the dying task a higher priority" Luis Claudio R. Goncalves
2011-03-24  0:06                   ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2011-03-24 15:27               ` Minchan Kim
2011-03-28  9:48                 ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2011-03-28 12:28                   ` Minchan Kim
2011-03-28  9:51                 ` Peter Zijlstra
2011-03-28 12:21                   ` Minchan Kim
2011-03-28 12:28                     ` Peter Zijlstra
2011-03-28 12:40                       ` Minchan Kim
2011-03-28 13:10                         ` Luis Claudio R. Goncalves
2011-03-28 13:18                           ` Peter Zijlstra
2011-03-28 13:56                             ` Luis Claudio R. Goncalves
2011-03-29  2:46                             ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2011-03-28 13:48                           ` Minchan Kim
2011-03-15 21:08       ` Linux 2.6.38 Oleg Nesterov
2011-03-15  3:14 ` Steven Rostedt
2011-03-15  4:15   ` Linus Torvalds
2011-03-16 17:30 ` i915/kms regression after 2.6.38-rc8 (was: Re: Linux 2.6.38) Melchior FRANZ
2011-03-16 19:22   ` i915/kms regression after 2.6.38-rc8 Jiri Slaby
2011-03-16 19:43   ` i915/kms regression after 2.6.38-rc8 (was: Re: Linux 2.6.38) Chris Wilson
2011-03-16 21:09     ` i915/kms regression after 2.6.38-rc8 Melchior FRANZ
2011-03-20 18:30   ` i915/kms regression after 2.6.38-rc8 (was: Re: Linux 2.6.38) Maciej Rutecki

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