From: Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>
To: Stephane Eranian <eranian@google.com>
Cc: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>,
Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo <acme@redhat.com>,
LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [BUG] perf: bogus correlation of kernel symbols
Date: Fri, 13 May 2011 00:00:21 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20110512220021.GA21732@elte.hu> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <BANLkTimO-8QNumkjzYia5P-V3pm_4JMLxg@mail.gmail.com>
* Stephane Eranian <eranian@google.com> wrote:
> On Thu, May 12, 2011 at 11:50 PM, Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu> wrote:
> >
> > * Stephane Eranian <eranian@google.com> wrote:
> >
> >> On Thu, May 12, 2011 at 11:35 PM, Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu> wrote:
> >> >
> >> > * Stephane Eranian <eranian@google.com> wrote:
> >> >
> >> >> The other contradiction, I see, is that you have perf_event paranoia level
> >> >> and this new kptr masquerading feature which conflict with each
> >> >> other.
> >> >>
> >> >> You can be allowed to monitor at the kernel level (paranoid=1, default)
> >> >> but you cannot correlate symbols:
> >> >>
> >> >> $ perf record -e cycles:k foo
> >> >>
> >> >> I suspect if you have this kptr thing turned on, then you need to disallow
> >> >> monitoring at the kernel level too.
> >> >
> >> > The better (and consistent) solution would be to turn the kptr_restrict thing
> >> > off - see the patch i sent.
> >>
> >> I saw that. But I think that when someone turns it back on, then you need to
> >> increase the perf_events paranoia level to disallow kernel monitoring to
> >> regular users such that you maintain consistency across the board.
> >
> > Dunno, i would not couple them necessarily - certain users might still have
> > access to kernel symbols via some other channel - for example the System.map.
>
> Ok, that's true, but then you'd need to have perf print a message or refuse to
> use /proc/kallsyms and suggest that the user provides a System.map.
Correct - the right approach would be to just use what we had in earlier
versions, an 'unknown symbol' kind of catch-all entry that shows how much
stuff we did not recognize.
Thanks,
Ingo
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2011-05-12 22:00 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 52+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2011-05-12 14:48 Stephane Eranian
2011-05-12 18:06 ` David Miller
2011-05-12 18:37 ` Dave Jones
2011-05-12 19:01 ` David Miller
2011-05-12 19:58 ` Pekka Enberg
2011-05-13 6:12 ` Kees Cook
2011-05-13 6:24 ` Pekka Enberg
2011-05-12 20:24 ` Alexey Dobriyan
2011-05-12 21:06 ` Ingo Molnar
2011-05-12 20:31 ` Linus Torvalds
2011-05-12 20:43 ` David Miller
2011-05-12 21:00 ` [PATCH] vsprintf: Turn kptr_restrict off by default Ingo Molnar
2011-05-12 21:08 ` David Miller
2011-05-12 21:07 ` [BUG] perf: bogus correlation of kernel symbols Stephane Eranian
2011-05-12 21:30 ` Stephane Eranian
2011-05-12 21:35 ` Ingo Molnar
2011-05-12 21:38 ` Stephane Eranian
2011-05-12 21:50 ` Ingo Molnar
2011-05-12 21:56 ` Stephane Eranian
2011-05-12 22:00 ` Ingo Molnar [this message]
2011-05-12 22:07 ` Dave Jones
2011-05-12 22:15 ` Stephane Eranian
2011-05-13 9:01 ` Ingo Molnar
2011-05-13 8:57 ` Ingo Molnar
2011-05-13 16:23 ` Andi Kleen
2011-05-17 12:17 ` Ingo Molnar
2011-05-12 21:36 ` Ingo Molnar
2011-05-12 21:41 ` Stephane Eranian
2011-05-12 21:54 ` Ingo Molnar
[not found] <1305292059.1949.0.camel@dan>
2011-05-13 13:29 ` Dan Rosenberg
2011-05-16 15:35 ` Ingo Molnar
2011-05-16 16:14 ` Dan Rosenberg
2011-05-20 0:56 ` Dan Rosenberg
2011-05-20 12:07 ` Ingo Molnar
2011-05-20 12:54 ` Dan Rosenberg
2011-05-20 13:11 ` Ingo Molnar
2011-05-20 17:41 ` Dan Rosenberg
2011-05-20 18:14 ` Linus Torvalds
2011-05-20 18:27 ` Kees Cook
2011-05-20 18:34 ` Dan Rosenberg
2011-05-20 18:42 ` Ingo Molnar
2011-05-20 18:28 ` Ingo Molnar
2011-05-22 6:11 ` david
2011-05-20 18:35 ` Ingo Molnar
2011-05-22 18:45 ` Dan Rosenberg
[not found] ` <BANLkTik1SK_kWVvGsKk0SqdByQ5-0b5nFg@mail.gmail.com>
2011-05-23 0:25 ` Dan Rosenberg
2011-05-23 0:37 ` H. Peter Anvin
2011-05-23 10:49 ` Ingo Molnar
2011-05-23 19:02 ` Ray Lee
2011-05-23 19:35 ` Ingo Molnar
2011-05-24 1:59 ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2011-05-24 4:06 ` Ingo Molnar
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