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From: Mike Frysinger <vapier@gentoo.org>
To: David Miller <davem@davemloft.net>
Cc: libc-alpha@sourceware.org, bhutchings@solarflare.com,
	yoshfuji@linux-ipv6.org, amwang@redhat.com, tmb@mageia.org,
	eblake@redhat.com, netdev@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, libvirt-list@redhat.com,
	tgraf@suug.ch, schwab@suse.de, carlos@systemhalted.org
Subject: Re: Redefinition of struct in6_addr in <netinet/in.h> and <linux/in6.h>
Date: Fri, 18 Jan 2013 00:27:02 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <201301180027.06171.vapier@gentoo.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20130117.235524.2010232687612037902.davem@davemloft.net>

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On Thursday 17 January 2013 23:55:24 David Miller wrote:
> From: Mike Frysinger <vapier@gentoo.org>
> > the kernel already exports many types with a __kernel_ prefix.  i changed
> > the kernel headers in Gentoo for a few releases (2.6.28 - 2.6.34) to do
> > the same thing to pretty much all the networking headers.  a few
> > packages broke, but the number was low, and trivial to fix (a sed would
> > do it most of the time).
> > 
> > it's also trivial for userland packages to detect that they need to do
> > this sort of thing in a local header by using linux/version.h and a set
> > of defines to redirect the new structure name back to the old one.
> > 
> > would be a lot cleaner to just break it and be done.
> 
> We are not at liberty to break something that has legitimately
> compiled successfully for two decades.

i doubt there are code bases that have compiled successfully for that long 
w/out being changed.  in fact, the kernel user headers (until recently) have 
been a volatile mess requiring constant care & feeding of user programs to 
keep compiling.  if anything, this would simply be maintaining the status quo 
for a bit longer.

> One thing you certainly don't have to be is happy about this header
> file situation, but you cannot use that dissatisfaction as
> justification to make the situation worse by breaking the build for
> people outside of the world you directly control.

i think you're making wrong assumptions about my position on the topic.  i 
never said i was against cleaning up the kernel user headers (and in fact, you 
can find many commits from me doing exactly that over the years in the kernel).
-mike

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  reply	other threads:[~2013-01-18  5:23 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 44+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2013-01-13 18:38 if_bridge.h: include in6.h for struct in6_addr use Thomas Backlund
2013-01-13 20:05 ` Thomas Backlund
2013-01-14 23:57   ` [libvirt] " Eric Blake
2013-01-15 10:03     ` the patch "bridge: export multicast database via netlink" broke kernel 3.8 uapi (was: Re: [libvirt] if_bridge.h: include in6.h for struct in6_addr use) Thomas Backlund
2013-01-15 10:11       ` Cong Wang
2013-01-15 10:55         ` the patch "bridge: export multicast database via netlink" broke kernel 3.8 uapi Thomas Backlund
2013-01-16  5:51           ` Cong Wang
2013-01-16  6:06           ` Redefinition of struct in6_addr in <netinet/in.h> and <linux/in6.h> Cong Wang
2013-01-16 14:21             ` YOSHIFUJI Hideaki
2013-01-16 15:47               ` Ben Hutchings
2013-01-16 17:04                 ` Mike Frysinger
2013-01-16 17:10                   ` Ben Hutchings
2013-01-16 17:28                     ` Mike Frysinger
2013-01-16 18:59                       ` David Miller
2013-01-16 19:22                         ` Mike Frysinger
2013-01-16 19:25                           ` David Miller
2013-01-17  3:40                           ` Cong Wang
     [not found]                         ` <CANE52KhF17WRZTUbrjRDnwcbdN+V+69=ZqXjBwPjnswEO5iz7g@mail.gmail.com>
2013-01-17  6:59                           ` Cong Wang
2013-01-17  7:02                             ` Cong Wang
2013-01-16 18:57                   ` David Miller
2013-01-16 19:29                     ` Mike Frysinger
2013-01-17  2:15                     ` Carlos O'Donell
2013-01-17  3:10                       ` YOSHIFUJI Hideaki
2013-01-17  3:15                       ` David Miller
2013-01-18  4:20                         ` Mike Frysinger
2013-01-18  4:22                           ` Carlos O'Donell
2013-01-18  4:34                             ` Mike Frysinger
2013-01-18 10:44                             ` Pedro Alves
2013-01-18 13:35                               ` Carlos O'Donell
2013-01-18 14:24                                 ` YOSHIFUJI Hideaki
2013-01-18 14:36                                   ` Pedro Alves
2013-01-18 14:54                                     ` Carlos O'Donell
2013-01-21  0:54                                     ` Mike Frysinger
2013-01-17  3:22                       ` YOSHIFUJI Hideaki
2013-01-18  4:13                         ` Carlos O'Donell
2013-01-16 21:45                 ` David Miller
2013-01-17  1:58                   ` Carlos O'Donell
2013-01-17  2:05                     ` David Miller
2013-01-17 10:57                       ` Jan Engelhardt
2013-01-18  4:14                   ` Mike Frysinger
2013-01-18  4:55                     ` David Miller
2013-01-18  5:27                       ` Mike Frysinger [this message]
2013-03-13 15:17     ` [libvirt] if_bridge.h: include in6.h for struct in6_addr use Kumar Gala
2013-03-13 16:24       ` Eric Blake

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