From: "Paul E. McKenney" <paulmck@linux.vnet.ibm.com>
To: Steven Rostedt <rostedt@goodmis.org>
Cc: Waiman Long <waiman.long@hp.com>,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, mingo@elte.hu,
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Davidlohr Bueso <davidlohr.bueso@hp.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH RFC ticketlock] Auto-queued ticketlock
Date: Tue, 11 Jun 2013 14:09:14 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20130611210914.GJ5146@linux.vnet.ibm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1370984210.9844.225.camel@gandalf.local.home>
On Tue, Jun 11, 2013 at 04:56:50PM -0400, Steven Rostedt wrote:
> On Tue, 2013-06-11 at 12:49 -0700, Paul E. McKenney wrote:
>
> > +config TICKET_LOCK_QUEUED
> > + bool "Dynamically switch between ticket and queued locking"
> > + depends on SMP
> > + default n
> > + ---help---
> > + Enable dynamic switching between ticketlock and queued locking
> > + on a per-lock basis. This option will slow down low-contention
> > + acquisition and release very slightly (additional conditional
> > + in release path), but will provide more efficient operation at
> > + high levels of lock contention. High-contention operation will
> > + not be quite as efficient as would be a pure queued lock, but
> > + this dynamic approach consumes less memory than queud locks
> > + and also runs faster at low levels of contention.
> > +
> > + Say "Y" if you are running on a large system with a workload
> > + that is likely to result in high levels of contention.
> > +
> > + Say "N" if you are unsure.
> > +
> > +config TICKET_LOCK_QUEUED_SWITCH
> > + int "When to switch from ticket to queued locking"
> > + depends on TICKET_LOCK_QUEUED
> > + default 8
> > + range 3 32
> > + ---help---
> > + Specify how many tasks should be spinning on the lock before
> > + switching to queued mode. Systems with low-latency memory/cache
> > + interconnects will prefer larger numbers, while extreme low-latency
> > + and real-time workloads will prefer a smaller number. Of course,
> > + extreme real-time workloads would be even happier if contention
> > + on the locks were reduced to the point that there was never any
> > + need for queued locking in the first place.
>
> Are you sure real-time wants low numbers? I would think that real-time
> would want this off. This is just a way to help prevent cache ping
> ponging, but it adds to non-deterministic behavior. As I mentioned
> before, even though you fixed the thundering herd on setup, once the
> queue is set, then we will get a thundering herd of tasks trying to
> queue itself, and the task that was spinning the longest could very well
> become the one at the end of the FIFO.
Me? I think that real-time just wants contention to remain low, so that
this sort of thing isn't needed in the first place. And now that you
mention it, I suppose that is one of the few things that real-time and
real-fast workloads have in common.
But if you had some mixed workload on a large system that was mostly
real-fast, but had a real-time component, and if the real-fast portion
needed TICKET_LOCK_QUEUED=y, then I would guess that the real-time
portion would want a relatively low number for TICKET_LOCK_QUEUED_SWITCH.
Thanx, Paul
> -- Steve
>
>
>
> > +
> > + Take the default if you are unsure.
> > diff --git a/kernel/Makefile b/kernel/Makefile
>
>
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2013-06-11 21:09 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 96+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2013-06-09 19:36 Paul E. McKenney
2013-06-10 20:47 ` Steven Rostedt
2013-06-10 20:57 ` Paul E. McKenney
2013-06-10 21:01 ` Thomas Gleixner
2013-06-10 21:15 ` Paul E. McKenney
2013-06-10 21:08 ` Steven Rostedt
2013-06-10 21:30 ` Paul E. McKenney
2013-06-10 21:35 ` Eric Dumazet
2013-06-10 21:54 ` Paul E. McKenney
2013-06-10 23:02 ` Steven Rostedt
2013-06-11 0:22 ` Paul E. McKenney
2013-06-11 0:44 ` Steven Rostedt
2013-06-11 0:51 ` Linus Torvalds
2013-06-11 7:53 ` Lai Jiangshan
2013-06-11 10:14 ` Paul E. McKenney
2013-06-11 15:22 ` Steven Rostedt
2013-06-11 16:45 ` Paul E. McKenney
2013-06-11 10:06 ` Paul E. McKenney
2013-06-11 17:53 ` Davidlohr Bueso
2013-06-11 18:05 ` Paul E. McKenney
2013-06-11 18:10 ` Steven Rostedt
2013-06-11 18:14 ` Davidlohr Bueso
2013-06-11 18:46 ` Paul E. McKenney
2013-06-12 17:50 ` Davidlohr Bueso
2013-06-12 18:15 ` Linus Torvalds
2013-06-12 20:03 ` Davidlohr Bueso
2013-06-12 20:26 ` Linus Torvalds
2013-06-12 20:40 ` Davidlohr Bueso
2013-06-12 21:06 ` Raymond Jennings
2013-06-12 23:32 ` Al Viro
2013-06-13 0:01 ` Linus Torvalds
2013-06-13 0:20 ` Al Viro
2013-06-13 0:38 ` Linus Torvalds
2013-06-13 0:49 ` Al Viro
2013-06-13 0:59 ` Linus Torvalds
2013-06-14 15:00 ` Waiman Long
2013-06-14 15:37 ` Linus Torvalds
2013-06-14 18:17 ` Waiman Long
2013-06-15 1:26 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2013-06-15 3:36 ` Waiman Long
2013-06-12 20:37 ` Linus Torvalds
2013-06-12 18:18 ` Steven Rostedt
2013-06-11 9:56 ` Paul E. McKenney
2013-06-11 15:00 ` Paul E. McKenney
2013-06-11 1:04 ` Steven Rostedt
2013-06-11 9:52 ` Paul E. McKenney
2013-06-11 14:48 ` Lai Jiangshan
2013-06-11 15:10 ` Lai Jiangshan
2013-06-11 16:48 ` Paul E. McKenney
2013-06-11 17:17 ` Linus Torvalds
2013-06-11 17:30 ` Paul E. McKenney
2013-06-11 16:21 ` Paul E. McKenney
2013-06-11 15:57 ` Waiman Long
2013-06-11 16:20 ` Steven Rostedt
2013-06-11 16:43 ` Paul E. McKenney
2013-06-11 17:13 ` Steven Rostedt
2013-06-11 17:43 ` Paul E. McKenney
2013-06-11 17:35 ` Waiman Long
2013-06-11 16:36 ` Paul E. McKenney
2013-06-11 17:01 ` Steven Rostedt
2013-06-11 17:16 ` Paul E. McKenney
2013-06-11 18:41 ` Waiman Long
2013-06-11 18:54 ` Davidlohr Bueso
2013-06-11 19:49 ` Paul E. McKenney
2013-06-11 20:09 ` Steven Rostedt
2013-06-11 20:32 ` Paul E. McKenney
2013-06-11 20:53 ` Steven Rostedt
2013-06-11 20:25 ` Jason Low
2013-06-11 20:36 ` Paul E. McKenney
2013-06-11 20:56 ` Steven Rostedt
2013-06-11 21:09 ` Paul E. McKenney [this message]
2013-06-12 1:19 ` Lai Jiangshan
2013-06-12 1:58 ` Steven Rostedt
2013-06-12 10:12 ` Paul E. McKenney
2013-06-12 11:06 ` Lai Jiangshan
2013-06-12 14:21 ` Paul E. McKenney
2013-06-12 14:15 ` Lai Jiangshan
2013-06-12 14:44 ` Paul E. McKenney
2013-06-11 17:02 ` [PATCH RFC ticketlock] v2 " Paul E. McKenney
2013-06-11 17:35 ` Linus Torvalds
2013-06-11 17:49 ` Paul E. McKenney
2013-06-11 17:36 ` Steven Rostedt
2013-06-11 17:52 ` Paul E. McKenney
2013-06-12 15:40 ` [PATCH RFC ticketlock] v3 " Paul E. McKenney
2013-06-12 16:13 ` Lai Jiangshan
2013-06-12 16:59 ` Paul E. McKenney
2013-06-13 2:55 ` Lai Jiangshan
2013-06-13 15:22 ` Paul E. McKenney
2013-06-13 23:25 ` Lai Jiangshan
2013-06-13 23:57 ` Paul E. McKenney
2013-06-14 1:28 ` Lai Jiangshan
2013-06-14 23:49 ` Paul E. McKenney
2013-06-14 7:12 ` Lai Jiangshan
2013-06-14 23:46 ` Paul E. McKenney
[not found] ` <CAC4Lta3dpTDc19rXLVQkZrxbu8AJL+Foc6ocAktUAozCpk2-Mg@mail.gmail.com>
2013-07-01 9:19 ` Raghavendra KT
2013-07-02 5:56 ` Paul E. McKenney
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