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From: "Paul E. McKenney" <paulmck@linux.vnet.ibm.com>
To: Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>
Cc: Steven Rostedt <rostedt@goodmis.org>,
	Matthew Whitehead <tedheadster@gmail.com>,
	john.stultz@linaro.org, LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	mwhitehe@redhat.com
Subject: Re: nohz problem with idle time on old hardware
Date: Wed, 13 Nov 2013 08:17:19 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20131113161719.GD4138@linux.vnet.ibm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <alpine.DEB.2.02.1311131635580.30673@ionos.tec.linutronix.de>

On Wed, Nov 13, 2013 at 04:50:20PM +0100, Thomas Gleixner wrote:
> On Wed, 13 Nov 2013, Steven Rostedt wrote:
> > > I'm not saying that we are actually getting into nohz, but something
> > > with the nohz code is messing with cpu accounting.
> > 
> > The trace does indeed show that a tick is happening, as the config has
> > HZ=250 (4ms) and we see a tick happen every 4ms. But for some reason,
> > we don't update the the idle time correctly when nohz is enabled.
> > 
> > When I say nohz is enabled, I mean that we don't have nohz=off in the
> > command line. There seems to be some difference between having nohz=off
> > and having nohz disabled at runtime.
> 
> Right that affects tick_nohz_enabled
> 
> Two files use this variable:
> kernel/rcu/tree_plugin.h
> kernel/time/tick-sched.c
> 
> The only accounting related stuff is in tick-sched.c:
> 
> get_cpu_idle_time_us() and get_cpu_iowait_time_us()
> 
> Both functions bail out if (!tick_nohz_enabled).
> 
> The users of get_cpu_idle_time_us() are cpufreq and fs/proc/stat.c!
> 
> Now the simplest fix is to let those functions check whether we
> actually switched into NOHZ mode. Should work for the RCU tree stuff
> as well.

RCU's use of tick_nohz_enabled is for the RCU_FAST_NO_HZ stuff.  If
it sees !tick_nohz_enabled, it skips trying to get RCU out of the way
of disabling the scheduling-clock tick.  If RCU detects a change
in the value of tick_nohz_enabled, it does a raise_softirq() to
force re-evaluation of the situation.

							Thanx, Paul


  reply	other threads:[~2013-11-13 16:17 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 29+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2013-11-13 11:39 Matthew Whitehead
2013-11-13 14:02 ` Thomas Gleixner
2013-11-13 15:21   ` Steven Rostedt
2013-11-13 15:31     ` Steven Rostedt
2013-11-13 15:50       ` Thomas Gleixner
2013-11-13 16:17         ` Paul E. McKenney [this message]
2013-11-13 15:57       ` Steven Rostedt
2013-11-13 16:07         ` Thomas Gleixner
2013-11-13 16:12           ` Steven Rostedt
2013-11-13 16:18             ` Paul E. McKenney
2013-11-13 16:23               ` Steven Rostedt
2013-11-13 16:35                 ` Paul E. McKenney
2013-11-13 20:01                   ` Thomas Gleixner
2013-11-13 20:07                     ` Steven Rostedt
2013-11-13 21:49                       ` Matthew Whitehead
2013-11-18 22:44                     ` Paul E. McKenney
2013-11-19 18:07                     ` [tip:timers/urgent] NOHZ: Check for nohz active instead of nohz enabled tip-bot for Thomas Gleixner
2014-04-09 13:51                     ` nohz problem with idle time on old hardware Viresh Kumar
2014-04-09 14:31                       ` Steven Rostedt
2014-04-09 15:20                         ` Viresh Kumar
2014-04-09 15:29                           ` Steven Rostedt
2014-04-09 15:31                             ` Steven Rostedt
2014-04-09 15:34                               ` Viresh Kumar
2014-04-09 15:39                               ` Steven Rostedt
2014-04-09 15:56                                 ` Viresh Kumar
2014-04-09 16:15                                   ` Steven Rostedt
2014-04-09 15:11                       ` Frederic Weisbecker
2013-11-13 16:21           ` Thomas Gleixner
2013-11-13 16:31             ` Steven Rostedt

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