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From: Dave Martin <Dave.Martin@arm.com>
To: Kees Cook <keescook@chromium.org>
Cc: "Catalin Marinas" <catalin.marinas@arm.com>,
	"Will Deacon" <will.deacon@arm.com>,
	"Larry Bassel" <lbassel@codeaurora.org>,
	"Stephen Rothwell" <sfr@canb.auug.org.au>,
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	"Laura Abbott" <lauraa@codeaurora.org>,
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	LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	"Santosh Shilimkar" <santosh.shilimkar@ti.com>,
	"Andrew Morton" <akpm@linux-foundation.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 2/2] ARM: mm: keep rodata non-executable
Date: Mon, 17 Feb 2014 12:34:21 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20140217123415.GA2182@e103592.cambridge.arm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAGXu5jLmYLQpu9CDhoL-2OTdwxqrfVCFbojmpjpcpLqmA=wWYA@mail.gmail.com>

On Fri, Feb 14, 2014 at 11:11:07AM -0800, Kees Cook wrote:
> On Fri, Feb 14, 2014 at 8:22 AM, Dave Martin <Dave.Martin@arm.com> wrote:
> > On Thu, Feb 13, 2014 at 05:04:10PM -0800, Kees Cook wrote:
> >> Introduce "CONFIG_DEBUG_RODATA" to mostly match the x86 config, though
> >> the behavior is different: it depends on STRICT_KERNMEM_PERMS, which
> >> sets rodata read-only (but executable), where as this option additionally
> >> splits rodata from the kernel text (resulting in potentially more memory
> >> lost to padding) and sets it non-executable as well. The end result is
> >> that on builds with CONFIG_DEBUG_RODATA=y (like x86) the rodata with be
> >> marked purely read-only.
> >
> > This triggers an Oops in kexec, because we have a block of code in .text
> > which is a template for generating baremetal code to relocate the new
> > kernel, and some literal words are written into it before copying.
> 
> You're writing into the text area? I would imagine that
> CONFIG_ARM_KERNMEM_PERMS would break that. However, that's not the
> right place to be building code -- shouldn't the module area be used
> for that?
> 
> > Possibly this should be in .rodata, not .text.
> 
> Well, rodata should be neither writable nor executable.

We're not writing into code exactly.

This code is never executed in-place in vmlinux.  It gets copied, and
only copies are ever executed.

Some pointers and offsets get poked into the code to configure it.

I think it would be better simply to put the code in .rodata, and
poke paramaters into the copy, not the original -- but that's a bit
more awkward to code up, since the values can't be poked simply by
writing global variables.

> 
> > There may be a few other instances of this kind of thing.
> 
> This config will certainly find them! :) But, that's why it's behind a config.

I haven't tested exhaustively, but it think this is sufficient for a
Tested-by.  The patch does seem to be doing what it is intended to
do, and doesn't seem to be triggering false positives all over the
place.

> 
> > Are you aware of similar situations on other arches?
> 
> I think there were some problems a long time ago on x86 for rodata too.

It would be good to get this kexec case fixed -- I'll try to hack up
a separate patch.

Cheers
---Dave

  reply	other threads:[~2014-02-17 12:35 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 22+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2014-02-14  1:04 [PATCH 0/2] ARM: mm: allow for stricter kernel memory perms Kees Cook
2014-02-14  1:04 ` [PATCH 1/2] " Kees Cook
2014-02-14  1:04 ` [PATCH 2/2] ARM: mm: keep rodata non-executable Kees Cook
2014-02-14 16:22   ` Dave Martin
2014-02-14 19:11     ` Kees Cook
2014-02-17 12:34       ` Dave Martin [this message]
2014-02-18 18:10         ` Kees Cook
2014-02-21 12:37           ` Dave Martin
2014-02-21 13:20             ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2014-02-21 22:09               ` Kees Cook
2014-03-13 19:07                 ` Kees Cook
2014-03-23 18:32                   ` Laura Abbott
2014-03-23 22:20                     ` Kees Cook
2014-03-23 18:47         ` Laura Abbott
2014-03-23 22:21           ` Kees Cook
2014-03-23 22:37             ` Nicolas Pitre
2014-03-23 22:56               ` Kees Cook
2014-03-24 10:47             ` Jon Medhurst (Tixy)
2014-04-01 22:34               ` Kees Cook
2014-04-01 22:54                 ` Laura Abbott
2014-04-01 22:59                   ` Kees Cook
2014-03-24 12:30           ` Dave Martin

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