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From: Dave Martin <Dave.Martin@arm.com>
To: Kees Cook <keescook@chromium.org>
Cc: "Catalin Marinas" <catalin.marinas@arm.com>,
	"Will Deacon" <will.deacon@arm.com>,
	"Larry Bassel" <lbassel@codeaurora.org>,
	"Stephen Rothwell" <sfr@canb.auug.org.au>,
	"Russell King" <linux@arm.linux.org.uk>,
	"Nicolas Pitre" <nico@linaro.org>,
	"Ben Dooks" <ben.dooks@codethink.co.uk>,
	"Uwe Kleine-König" <u.kleine-koenig@pengutronix.de>,
	"Grant Likely" <grant.likely@linaro.org>,
	"Jiang Liu" <liuj97@gmail.com>,
	"Christoffer Dall" <cdall@cs.columbia.edu>,
	"Laura Abbott" <lauraa@codeaurora.org>,
	"Marc Zyngier" <marc.zyngier@arm.com>,
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	"Vitaly Andrianov" <vitalya@ti.com>,
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	<linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org>,
	"Jonathan Austin" <jonathan.austin@arm.com>,
	"Simon Baatz" <gmbnomis@gmail.com>,
	"Greg Kroah-Hartman" <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org>,
	LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	"Santosh Shilimkar" <santosh.shilimkar@ti.com>,
	"Andrew Morton" <akpm@linux-foundation.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 2/2] ARM: mm: keep rodata non-executable
Date: Fri, 21 Feb 2014 12:37:04 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20140221123645.GA2578@e103592.cambridge.arm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAGXu5j+s70cNVVGf_T4=MqJ0TeYOFAyfWNUozWvHJ4-BvX-yKg@mail.gmail.com>

On Tue, Feb 18, 2014 at 10:10:03AM -0800, Kees Cook wrote:
> On Mon, Feb 17, 2014 at 4:34 AM, Dave Martin <Dave.Martin@arm.com> wrote:
> > On Fri, Feb 14, 2014 at 11:11:07AM -0800, Kees Cook wrote:
> >> On Fri, Feb 14, 2014 at 8:22 AM, Dave Martin <Dave.Martin@arm.com> wrote:
> >> > On Thu, Feb 13, 2014 at 05:04:10PM -0800, Kees Cook wrote:
> >> >> Introduce "CONFIG_DEBUG_RODATA" to mostly match the x86 config, though
> >> >> the behavior is different: it depends on STRICT_KERNMEM_PERMS, which
> >> >> sets rodata read-only (but executable), where as this option additionally
> >> >> splits rodata from the kernel text (resulting in potentially more memory
> >> >> lost to padding) and sets it non-executable as well. The end result is
> >> >> that on builds with CONFIG_DEBUG_RODATA=y (like x86) the rodata with be
> >> >> marked purely read-only.
> >> >
> >> > This triggers an Oops in kexec, because we have a block of code in .text
> >> > which is a template for generating baremetal code to relocate the new
> >> > kernel, and some literal words are written into it before copying.
> >>
> >> You're writing into the text area? I would imagine that
> >> CONFIG_ARM_KERNMEM_PERMS would break that. However, that's not the
> >> right place to be building code -- shouldn't the module area be used
> >> for that?
> >>
> >> > Possibly this should be in .rodata, not .text.
> >>
> >> Well, rodata should be neither writable nor executable.
> >
> > We're not writing into code exactly.
> >
> > This code is never executed in-place in vmlinux.  It gets copied, and
> > only copies are ever executed.
> >
> > Some pointers and offsets get poked into the code to configure it.
> >
> > I think it would be better simply to put the code in .rodata, and
> > poke paramaters into the copy, not the original -- but that's a bit
> > more awkward to code up, since the values can't be poked simply by
> > writing global variables.
> 
> Okay, interesting. I'll be curious to see what the patch for this looks like.
> 
> >> > There may be a few other instances of this kind of thing.
> >>
> >> This config will certainly find them! :) But, that's why it's behind a config.
> >
> > I haven't tested exhaustively, but it think this is sufficient for a
> > Tested-by.  The patch does seem to be doing what it is intended to
> > do, and doesn't seem to be triggering false positives all over the
> > place.
> 
> Great, thanks for taking the time to check on it!
> 
> Should I send this to the patch tracker, or wait for more feedback?

It would be good if someone who's more familiar with the parms and
vmlinux.lds stuff could take a look at it, though I don't see any
obvious problem yet.

If you don't receive further comments, you could try reposting once
to alert people to the fact that you're still waiting.

Cheers
---Dave

  reply	other threads:[~2014-02-21 12:38 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 22+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2014-02-14  1:04 [PATCH 0/2] ARM: mm: allow for stricter kernel memory perms Kees Cook
2014-02-14  1:04 ` [PATCH 1/2] " Kees Cook
2014-02-14  1:04 ` [PATCH 2/2] ARM: mm: keep rodata non-executable Kees Cook
2014-02-14 16:22   ` Dave Martin
2014-02-14 19:11     ` Kees Cook
2014-02-17 12:34       ` Dave Martin
2014-02-18 18:10         ` Kees Cook
2014-02-21 12:37           ` Dave Martin [this message]
2014-02-21 13:20             ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2014-02-21 22:09               ` Kees Cook
2014-03-13 19:07                 ` Kees Cook
2014-03-23 18:32                   ` Laura Abbott
2014-03-23 22:20                     ` Kees Cook
2014-03-23 18:47         ` Laura Abbott
2014-03-23 22:21           ` Kees Cook
2014-03-23 22:37             ` Nicolas Pitre
2014-03-23 22:56               ` Kees Cook
2014-03-24 10:47             ` Jon Medhurst (Tixy)
2014-04-01 22:34               ` Kees Cook
2014-04-01 22:54                 ` Laura Abbott
2014-04-01 22:59                   ` Kees Cook
2014-03-24 12:30           ` Dave Martin

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