From: One Thousand Gnomes <gnomes@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk>
To: Matthew Garrett <matthew.garrett@nebula.com>
Cc: "jmorris@namei.org" <jmorris@namei.org>,
"linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
"keescook@chromium.org" <keescook@chromium.org>,
"linux-security-module@vger.kernel.org"
<linux-security-module@vger.kernel.org>,
"akpm@linux-foundation.org" <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
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"jwboyer@fedoraproject.org" <jwboyer@fedoraproject.org>,
"linux-efi@vger.kernel.org" <linux-efi@vger.kernel.org>,
"gregkh@linuxfoundation.org" <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org>
Subject: Re: Trusted kernel patchset for Secure Boot lockdown
Date: Thu, 13 Mar 2014 21:24:50 +0000 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20140313212450.67f1de8e@alan.etchedpixels.co.uk> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1394726363.25122.16.camel@x230>
On Thu, 13 Mar 2014 15:59:24 +0000
Matthew Garrett <matthew.garrett@nebula.com> wrote:
> On Thu, 2014-03-13 at 20:33 +1100, James Morris wrote:
>
> > I'll take it, but there's unanswered review feedback (your response to the
> > first question), and Alan raised some doubts about the patches which I'm
> > not sure have been resolved.
>
> The remaining opens seem to be CAP_SYS_RAWIO and firmware signing?
> Ironically, disabling CAP_SYS_RAWIO disables firmware loading…
>
> The problem with CAP_SYS_RAWIO is that its semantics were never
> sufficiently well documented, and as a result it's a mixture of "This is
> incredibly dangerous" and "We replaced a check for uid 0 with whichever
> capability seemed to have the most appropriate name". I've gone through
> all the uses of CAP_SYS_RAWIO and added additional checks to the generic
> ones that seem appropriate. There's a couple of old drivers that use it
> to gate access to features that potentially allow arbitrary DMA and it
> might be worth cleaning those up, but the only general case I haven't
> modified is the ability to send arbitrary SCSI commands from userspace.
> My understanding is that endpoints aren't going to be able to DMA to
> arbitrary addresses, so that doesn't seem like a problem.
>
> On the other hand, disabling CAP_SYS_RAWIO *definitely* breaks expected
> functionality - firmware loading and the fibmap ioctl are probably the
> most obvious. And changing the use of CAP_SYS_RAWIO potentially breaks
> userspace expectations, so we're kind of stuck there.
If I have CAP_SYS_RAWIO I can make arbitary ring 0 calls from userspace,
trivially and in a fashion well known and documented.
So if that isn't sufficient then we need to sort CAP_foo out first.
You've missed a few others too - mem= (especially with exactmap) for
example.
Alan
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2014-03-13 21:25 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 72+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2014-02-26 20:11 Matthew Garrett
2014-02-26 20:11 ` [PATCH 01/12] Add support for indicating that the booted kernel is externally trusted Matthew Garrett
2014-02-27 19:02 ` Kees Cook
2014-03-31 14:49 ` Pavel Machek
2014-02-26 20:11 ` [PATCH 02/12] Enforce module signatures when trusted kernel is enabled Matthew Garrett
2014-02-26 20:11 ` [PATCH 03/12] PCI: Lock down BAR access when trusted_kernel is true Matthew Garrett
2014-02-26 20:11 ` [PATCH 04/12] x86: Lock down IO port " Matthew Garrett
2014-02-26 20:11 ` [PATCH 05/12] Restrict /dev/mem and /dev/kmem " Matthew Garrett
2014-02-26 20:11 ` [PATCH 06/12] acpi: Limit access to custom_method if " Matthew Garrett
2014-02-26 20:11 ` [PATCH 07/12] acpi: Ignore acpi_rsdp kernel parameter when " Matthew Garrett
2014-02-26 20:11 ` [PATCH 08/12] kexec: Disable at runtime if " Matthew Garrett
2014-02-26 20:11 ` [PATCH 09/12] uswsusp: Disable when " Matthew Garrett
2014-03-31 14:49 ` Pavel Machek
2014-02-26 20:11 ` [PATCH 10/12] x86: Restrict MSR access " Matthew Garrett
2014-02-26 20:11 ` [PATCH 11/12] asus-wmi: Restrict debugfs interface " Matthew Garrett
2014-02-26 20:11 ` [PATCH 12/12] Add option to automatically set trusted_kernel when in Secure Boot mode Matthew Garrett
2014-02-26 22:41 ` One Thousand Gnomes
2014-02-26 22:47 ` H. Peter Anvin
2014-02-26 22:48 ` Matthew Garrett
2014-02-27 18:48 ` Kees Cook
2014-02-26 21:11 ` Trusted kernel patchset for Secure Boot lockdown Kees Cook
2014-02-26 22:21 ` One Thousand Gnomes
2014-03-19 17:42 ` Florian Weimer
2014-02-27 18:04 ` Josh Boyer
2014-02-27 19:07 ` Greg KH
2014-02-27 19:11 ` Josh Boyer
2014-02-28 12:50 ` Josh Boyer
2014-02-28 3:03 ` James Morris
2014-02-28 4:52 ` Matthew Garrett
2014-03-13 5:01 ` Matthew Garrett
2014-03-13 6:22 ` Kees Cook
2014-03-13 9:33 ` James Morris
2014-03-13 10:12 ` One Thousand Gnomes
2014-03-13 15:54 ` H. Peter Anvin
2014-03-13 15:59 ` Matthew Garrett
2014-03-13 21:24 ` One Thousand Gnomes [this message]
2014-03-13 21:28 ` H. Peter Anvin
2014-03-13 21:32 ` Matthew Garrett
2014-03-13 21:30 ` Matthew Garrett
2014-03-13 23:21 ` One Thousand Gnomes
2014-03-14 1:57 ` Matthew Garrett
2014-03-14 12:22 ` One Thousand Gnomes
2014-03-14 12:51 ` Matthew Garrett
2014-03-14 15:23 ` Kees Cook
2014-03-14 15:46 ` Matthew Garrett
2014-03-14 15:54 ` Kees Cook
2014-03-14 15:58 ` Matthew Garrett
2014-03-14 16:28 ` One Thousand Gnomes
2014-03-14 17:06 ` One Thousand Gnomes
2014-03-14 18:11 ` Matthew Garrett
2014-03-14 19:24 ` Matthew Garrett
2014-03-14 20:37 ` David Lang
2014-03-14 20:43 ` Matthew Garrett
2014-03-14 21:58 ` One Thousand Gnomes
2014-03-14 22:04 ` Matthew Garrett
2014-03-14 21:48 ` One Thousand Gnomes
2014-03-14 21:56 ` Matthew Garrett
2014-03-14 22:08 ` One Thousand Gnomes
2014-03-14 22:15 ` Matthew Garrett
2014-03-14 22:31 ` One Thousand Gnomes
2014-03-14 22:52 ` Matthew Garrett
2014-03-19 19:50 ` Kees Cook
2014-03-14 23:18 ` Theodore Ts'o
2014-03-15 0:15 ` One Thousand Gnomes
2014-03-19 17:49 ` Florian Weimer
2014-03-19 20:16 ` Kees Cook
2014-03-20 14:47 ` One Thousand Gnomes
2014-03-20 14:55 ` tytso
2014-03-20 17:12 ` Matthew Garrett
2014-03-20 18:13 ` One Thousand Gnomes
2014-03-13 21:26 ` One Thousand Gnomes
2014-03-13 21:31 ` Matthew Garrett
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