From: "George Spelvin" <linux@horizon.com>
To: linux@horizon.com, tytso@mit.edu
Cc: hpa@linux.intel.com, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
mingo@kernel.org, price@mit.edu
Subject: Re: drivers/char/random.c: more ruminations
Date: 11 Jun 2014 00:34:16 -0400 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20140611043416.13875.qmail@ns.horizon.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20140611020835.GA23110@thunk.org>
> So have you actually instrumented the kernel to demonstrate that in
> fact we have super deep stack call paths where the 128 bytes worth of
> stack actually matters?
I haven't got a specific call chain where 128 bytes pushes it
over a limit. But kernel stack usage is a perennial problem.
Wasn't there some discussion about that just recenty?
6538b8ea8: "x86_64: expand kernel stack to 16K"
I agree a 128 byte stack frame is not one of the worst offenders,
but it's enough to try to clean up if possible.
You can search LKML for a bunch of discussion of 176 bytes
in __alloc_pages_slowpath().
And in this case, it's so *easy*. extract_buf() works 10 bytes at a
time anyway, and _mix_pool_bytes is byte at a time.
>> I hadn't tested the patch when I mailed it to you (I prepared it in
>> order to reply to your e-mail, and it's annoying to reboot the machine
>> I'm composing an e-mail on), but I have since. It works.
> As an aside, I'd strongly suggest that you use kvm to do your kernel
> testing. It means you can do a lot more testing which is always a
> good thing....
H'mmm. I need to learn what KVM *is*. Apparently there's a second
meaning other than "keyboard, video & mouse". :-)
Normally, I just test using modules. Especially when working on a
driver for a hardware device, virtualization makes life difficult.
But /dev/random is (for good reasons) not modularizable.
(I can see how it'd be useful for filesystem development, however.)
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2014-06-11 4:34 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 57+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2014-06-09 0:05 [RFC PATCH] drivers/char/random.c: Is reducing locking range like this safe? George Spelvin
2014-06-09 1:35 ` Theodore Ts'o
2014-06-09 2:10 ` George Spelvin
2014-06-09 2:18 ` George Spelvin
2014-06-09 4:03 ` George Spelvin
2014-06-09 9:23 ` George Spelvin
2014-06-09 13:34 ` Theodore Ts'o
2014-06-09 15:04 ` George Spelvin
2014-06-09 15:50 ` Theodore Ts'o
2014-06-09 16:11 ` George Spelvin
2014-06-10 0:20 ` drivers/char/random.c: more ruminations George Spelvin
2014-06-10 1:20 ` Theodore Ts'o
2014-06-10 3:10 ` George Spelvin
2014-06-10 15:25 ` Theodore Ts'o
2014-06-10 20:40 ` George Spelvin
2014-06-10 21:20 ` Theodore Ts'o
2014-06-11 0:10 ` George Spelvin
2014-06-11 2:08 ` Theodore Ts'o
2014-06-11 3:58 ` George Spelvin
2014-06-11 13:11 ` Theodore Ts'o
2014-06-12 0:42 ` George Spelvin
2014-06-12 1:03 ` H. Peter Anvin
2014-06-11 4:34 ` George Spelvin [this message]
2014-06-11 13:09 ` Theodore Ts'o
2014-06-11 2:21 ` Theodore Ts'o
2014-06-09 13:17 ` drivers/char/random.c: More futzing about George Spelvin
2014-06-11 16:38 ` Theodore Ts'o
2014-06-11 16:48 ` H. Peter Anvin
2014-06-11 19:25 ` Theodore Ts'o
2014-06-11 20:41 ` H. Peter Anvin
2014-06-12 0:44 ` H. Peter Anvin
2014-06-12 1:51 ` George Spelvin
2014-06-12 0:32 ` George Spelvin
2014-06-12 3:22 ` Theodore Ts'o
2014-06-12 4:13 ` random: Benchamrking fast_mix2 George Spelvin
2014-06-12 11:18 ` George Spelvin
2014-06-12 20:17 ` Theodore Ts'o
2014-06-12 20:46 ` Theodore Ts'o
2014-06-13 0:23 ` George Spelvin
2014-06-13 15:52 ` Theodore Ts'o
2014-06-14 2:10 ` George Spelvin
2014-06-14 3:06 ` Theodore Ts'o
2014-06-14 5:25 ` George Spelvin
2014-06-14 6:24 ` Theodore Ts'o
2014-06-14 8:03 ` George Spelvin
2014-06-14 11:14 ` George Spelvin
2014-06-14 15:13 ` George Spelvin
2014-06-14 16:33 ` Theodore Ts'o
2014-06-15 0:23 ` George Spelvin
2014-06-15 1:17 ` Theodore Ts'o
2014-06-15 6:58 ` George Spelvin
2014-06-15 13:01 ` Theodore Ts'o
2014-06-14 6:27 ` Theodore Ts'o
2014-06-14 4:55 ` [RFC] random: is the IRQF_TIMER test working as intended? George Spelvin
2014-06-14 6:43 ` Theodore Ts'o
2014-06-14 7:23 ` George Spelvin
2014-06-12 3:43 ` drivers/char/random.c: More futzing about George Spelvin
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