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From: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>
To: bsegall@google.com
Cc: Yuyang Du <yuyang.du@intel.com>,
	mingo@redhat.com, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, pjt@google.com,
	arjan.van.de.ven@intel.com, len.brown@intel.com,
	rafael.j.wysocki@intel.com, alan.cox@intel.com,
	mark.gross@intel.com, fengguang.wu@intel.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH 2/2 v4] sched: Rewrite per entity runnable load average tracking
Date: Mon, 28 Jul 2014 19:19:09 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20140728171909.GW19379@twins.programming.kicks-ass.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <xm26lhrdv2s4.fsf@sword-of-the-dawn.mtv.corp.google.com>

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On Mon, Jul 28, 2014 at 09:58:19AM -0700, bsegall@google.com wrote:
> Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org> writes:
> 
> >> @@ -4551,18 +4382,34 @@ migrate_task_rq_fair(struct task_struct *p, int next_cpu)
> >>  {
> >>  	struct sched_entity *se = &p->se;
> >>  	struct cfs_rq *cfs_rq = cfs_rq_of(se);
> >> +	u64 last_update_time;
> >>  
> >>  	/*
> >> +	 * Task on old CPU catches up with its old cfs_rq, and subtract itself from
> >> +	 * the cfs_rq (task must be off the queue now).
> >>  	 */
> >> +#ifndef CONFIG_64BIT
> >> +	u64 last_update_time_copy;
> >> +
> >> +	do {
> >> +		last_update_time_copy = cfs_rq->load_last_update_time_copy;
> >> +		smp_rmb();
> >> +		last_update_time = cfs_rq->avg.last_update_time;
> >> +	} while (last_update_time != last_update_time_copy);
> >> +#else
> >> +	last_update_time = cfs_rq->avg.last_update_time;
> >> +#endif
> >> +	__update_load_avg(last_update_time, &se->avg, 0);
> >> +	atomic_long_add(se->avg.load_avg, &cfs_rq->removed_load_avg);
> >> +
> >> +	/*
> >> +	 * We are supposed to update the task to "current" time, then its up to date
> >> +	 * and ready to go to new CPU/cfs_rq. But we have difficulty in getting
> >> +	 * what current time is, so simply throw away the out-of-date time. This
> >> +	 * will result in the wakee task is less decayed, but giving the wakee more
> >> +	 * load sounds not bad.
> >> +	 */
> >> +	se->avg.last_update_time = 0;
> >>  
> >>  	/* We have migrated, no longer consider this task hot */
> >>  	se->exec_start = 0;
> >
> >
> > And here we try and make good on that assumption. The thing I worry
> > about is what happens if the machine is entirely idle...
> >
> > What guarantees an semi up-to-date cfs_rq->avg.last_update_time.
> 
> update_blocked_averages I think should do just as good a job as the old
> code, which isn't perfect but is about as good as you can get worst case.

Right, that's called from rebalance_domains() which should more or less
update this value on tick boundaries or thereabouts for most 'active'
cpus.

But if the entire machine is idle, the first wakeup (if its a x-cpu one)
might see a very stale timestamp.

If we can fix that, that would be good I suppose, but I'm not
immediately seeing something pretty there, but you're right, it'd not be
worse than the current situation.

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  reply	other threads:[~2014-07-28 17:19 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 47+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2014-07-17 23:26 [PATCH 0/2 " Yuyang Du
2014-07-17 23:26 ` [PATCH 1/2 v4] sched: Remove update_rq_runnable_avg Yuyang Du
2014-07-17 23:26 ` [PATCH 2/2 v4] sched: Rewrite per entity runnable load average tracking Yuyang Du
2014-07-18  9:43   ` Vincent Guittot
2014-07-27 17:36     ` Yuyang Du
2014-07-29  9:12       ` Vincent Guittot
2014-07-29  1:43         ` Yuyang Du
2014-07-29 13:17           ` Vincent Guittot
2014-07-29 22:27             ` Yuyang Du
2014-07-30  8:30               ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-07-30  0:40                 ` Yuyang Du
2014-07-29  9:39         ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-07-29  1:53           ` Yuyang Du
2014-07-29 13:35             ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-07-29 15:55               ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-07-29 23:08               ` Yuyang Du
2014-07-31  9:40             ` Vincent Guittot
2014-07-31  9:56             ` [PATCH 2/2 v4] sched: Rewrite per entity runnable load average Vincent Guittot
2014-07-31 19:16               ` Yuyang Du
2014-08-01  9:28                 ` Vincent Guittot
2014-07-28 10:48   ` [PATCH 2/2 v4] sched: Rewrite per entity runnable load average tracking Peter Zijlstra
2014-07-29  0:56     ` Yuyang Du
2014-07-29 13:15       ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-07-28 11:39   ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-07-29  1:09     ` Yuyang Du
2014-07-29 13:19       ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-07-28 12:01   ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-07-28 13:51   ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-07-28 16:58     ` bsegall
2014-07-28 17:19       ` Peter Zijlstra [this message]
2014-07-29  1:13         ` Yuyang Du
2014-07-18 15:39 ` [PATCH 0/2 " Morten Rasmussen
2014-07-27 19:02   ` Yuyang Du
2014-07-28 10:38     ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-07-29  1:17       ` Yuyang Du
2014-07-29 13:06         ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-07-30 10:13     ` Morten Rasmussen
2014-07-30 10:21       ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-07-30 10:57         ` Morten Rasmussen
2014-07-30 19:17       ` Yuyang Du
2014-07-31  8:54         ` Morten Rasmussen
2014-07-31  2:15           ` Yuyang Du
2014-07-20  5:46 ` Mike Galbraith
2014-07-27 19:34   ` Yuyang Du
2014-07-28  7:49     ` Mike Galbraith
2014-07-28  0:01       ` Yuyang Du
2014-07-28  8:55     ` Peter Zijlstra

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