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From: Morten Rasmussen <morten.rasmussen@arm.com>
To: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>
Cc: Yuyang Du <yuyang.du@intel.com>,
	"mingo@redhat.com" <mingo@redhat.com>,
	"linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	"pjt@google.com" <pjt@google.com>,
	"bsegall@google.com" <bsegall@google.com>,
	"arjan.van.de.ven@intel.com" <arjan.van.de.ven@intel.com>,
	"len.brown@intel.com" <len.brown@intel.com>,
	"rafael.j.wysocki@intel.com" <rafael.j.wysocki@intel.com>,
	"alan.cox@intel.com" <alan.cox@intel.com>,
	"mark.gross@intel.com" <mark.gross@intel.com>,
	"fengguang.wu@intel.com" <fengguang.wu@intel.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 0/2 v4] sched: Rewrite per entity runnable load average tracking
Date: Wed, 30 Jul 2014 11:57:07 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20140730105707.GC3001@e103034-lin> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20140730102128.GJ19379@twins.programming.kicks-ass.net>

On Wed, Jul 30, 2014 at 11:21:28AM +0100, Peter Zijlstra wrote:
> On Wed, Jul 30, 2014 at 11:13:31AM +0100, Morten Rasmussen wrote:
> > It is a very real problem when user-space uses priorities extensively
> > like Android does. Tasks related to audio run at very high priorities
> > but only for a very short amount of time, but due the to priority
> > scaling their load ends up being several times higher than tasks running
> > all the time at normal priority. Hence task load is a very poor
> > indicator of utilization.
> 
> FWIW Android (which I think does this through binder) is utterly insane
> in this regard. But yes, we have to live with it.

I agree that its use of priorities seems a bit extreme. I'm not trying
to defend it in any way :-) 

  reply	other threads:[~2014-07-30 10:57 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 47+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2014-07-17 23:26 Yuyang Du
2014-07-17 23:26 ` [PATCH 1/2 v4] sched: Remove update_rq_runnable_avg Yuyang Du
2014-07-17 23:26 ` [PATCH 2/2 v4] sched: Rewrite per entity runnable load average tracking Yuyang Du
2014-07-18  9:43   ` Vincent Guittot
2014-07-27 17:36     ` Yuyang Du
2014-07-29  9:12       ` Vincent Guittot
2014-07-29  1:43         ` Yuyang Du
2014-07-29 13:17           ` Vincent Guittot
2014-07-29 22:27             ` Yuyang Du
2014-07-30  8:30               ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-07-30  0:40                 ` Yuyang Du
2014-07-29  9:39         ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-07-29  1:53           ` Yuyang Du
2014-07-29 13:35             ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-07-29 15:55               ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-07-29 23:08               ` Yuyang Du
2014-07-31  9:40             ` Vincent Guittot
2014-07-31  9:56             ` [PATCH 2/2 v4] sched: Rewrite per entity runnable load average Vincent Guittot
2014-07-31 19:16               ` Yuyang Du
2014-08-01  9:28                 ` Vincent Guittot
2014-07-28 10:48   ` [PATCH 2/2 v4] sched: Rewrite per entity runnable load average tracking Peter Zijlstra
2014-07-29  0:56     ` Yuyang Du
2014-07-29 13:15       ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-07-28 11:39   ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-07-29  1:09     ` Yuyang Du
2014-07-29 13:19       ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-07-28 12:01   ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-07-28 13:51   ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-07-28 16:58     ` bsegall
2014-07-28 17:19       ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-07-29  1:13         ` Yuyang Du
2014-07-18 15:39 ` [PATCH 0/2 " Morten Rasmussen
2014-07-27 19:02   ` Yuyang Du
2014-07-28 10:38     ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-07-29  1:17       ` Yuyang Du
2014-07-29 13:06         ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-07-30 10:13     ` Morten Rasmussen
2014-07-30 10:21       ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-07-30 10:57         ` Morten Rasmussen [this message]
2014-07-30 19:17       ` Yuyang Du
2014-07-31  8:54         ` Morten Rasmussen
2014-07-31  2:15           ` Yuyang Du
2014-07-20  5:46 ` Mike Galbraith
2014-07-27 19:34   ` Yuyang Du
2014-07-28  7:49     ` Mike Galbraith
2014-07-28  0:01       ` Yuyang Du
2014-07-28  8:55     ` Peter Zijlstra

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