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From: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>
To: Vincent Guittot <vincent.guittot@linaro.org>
Cc: Yuyang Du <yuyang.du@intel.com>,
	"mingo@redhat.com" <mingo@redhat.com>,
	linux-kernel <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Paul Turner <pjt@google.com>,
	Benjamin Segall <bsegall@google.com>,
	arjan.van.de.ven@intel.com, Len Brown <len.brown@intel.com>,
	rafael.j.wysocki@intel.com, alan.cox@intel.com, "Gross,
	Mark" <mark.gross@intel.com>,
	"fengguang.wu@intel.com" <fengguang.wu@intel.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 2/2 v4] sched: Rewrite per entity runnable load average tracking
Date: Tue, 29 Jul 2014 11:39:11 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20140729093911.GU20603@laptop.programming.kicks-ass.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAKfTPtBR1dK-8nFGAMvEa2AC6ByZgOskkZpWEOXwzDrUD6xBDg@mail.gmail.com>

On Tue, Jul 29, 2014 at 11:12:37AM +0200, Vincent Guittot wrote:
> On 27 July 2014 19:36, Yuyang Du <yuyang.du@intel.com> wrote:
> > Hi Vincent,
> >
> > On Fri, Jul 18, 2014 at 11:43:00AM +0200, Vincent Guittot wrote:
> >> > @@ -2291,23 +2299,24 @@ static __always_inline int __update_entity_runnable_avg(u64 now,
> >> >         delta >>= 10;
> >> >         if (!delta)
> >> >                 return 0;
> >> > -       sa->last_runnable_update = now;
> >> > +       sa->last_update_time = now;
> >> >
> >> >         /* delta_w is the amount already accumulated against our next period */
> >> > -       delta_w = sa->runnable_avg_period % 1024;
> >> > +       delta_w = sa->period_contrib;
> >> >         if (delta + delta_w >= 1024) {
> >> > -               /* period roll-over */
> >> >                 decayed = 1;
> >> >
> >> > +               /* how much left for next period will start over, we don't know yet */
> >> > +               sa->period_contrib = 0;
> >> > +
> >> >                 /*
> >> >                  * Now that we know we're crossing a period boundary, figure
> >> >                  * out how much from delta we need to complete the current
> >> >                  * period and accrue it.
> >> >                  */
> >> >                 delta_w = 1024 - delta_w;
> >> > -               if (runnable)
> >> > -                       sa->runnable_avg_sum += delta_w;
> >> > -               sa->runnable_avg_period += delta_w;
> >> > +               if (w)
> >> > +                       sa->load_sum += w * delta_w;
> >>
> >> Do you really need to have *w for computing the load_sum ? can't you
> >> only use it when computing the load_avg ?
> >>
> >> sa->load_avg = div_u64(sa->load_sum * w , LOAD_AVG_MAX)
> >>
> >
> > For task, assuming its load.weight does not change much, yes, we can. But in theory, task's
> 
> I would even say that the load_avg of a task should not be impacted by
> an old priority value. Once, the priority of a task is changed, we
> should only take into account this new priority to weight the load_avg
> of the task

So for tasks I would immediately agree, and I think for groups too,
seeing how the group weight is based off of this avg, if you then
include the old weight we'll get a feedback loop. This might not be
desired as it would counteract the SMP movement of tasks.

  parent reply	other threads:[~2014-07-29  9:39 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 47+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2014-07-17 23:26 [PATCH 0/2 " Yuyang Du
2014-07-17 23:26 ` [PATCH 1/2 v4] sched: Remove update_rq_runnable_avg Yuyang Du
2014-07-17 23:26 ` [PATCH 2/2 v4] sched: Rewrite per entity runnable load average tracking Yuyang Du
2014-07-18  9:43   ` Vincent Guittot
2014-07-27 17:36     ` Yuyang Du
2014-07-29  9:12       ` Vincent Guittot
2014-07-29  1:43         ` Yuyang Du
2014-07-29 13:17           ` Vincent Guittot
2014-07-29 22:27             ` Yuyang Du
2014-07-30  8:30               ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-07-30  0:40                 ` Yuyang Du
2014-07-29  9:39         ` Peter Zijlstra [this message]
2014-07-29  1:53           ` Yuyang Du
2014-07-29 13:35             ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-07-29 15:55               ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-07-29 23:08               ` Yuyang Du
2014-07-31  9:40             ` Vincent Guittot
2014-07-31  9:56             ` [PATCH 2/2 v4] sched: Rewrite per entity runnable load average Vincent Guittot
2014-07-31 19:16               ` Yuyang Du
2014-08-01  9:28                 ` Vincent Guittot
2014-07-28 10:48   ` [PATCH 2/2 v4] sched: Rewrite per entity runnable load average tracking Peter Zijlstra
2014-07-29  0:56     ` Yuyang Du
2014-07-29 13:15       ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-07-28 11:39   ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-07-29  1:09     ` Yuyang Du
2014-07-29 13:19       ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-07-28 12:01   ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-07-28 13:51   ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-07-28 16:58     ` bsegall
2014-07-28 17:19       ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-07-29  1:13         ` Yuyang Du
2014-07-18 15:39 ` [PATCH 0/2 " Morten Rasmussen
2014-07-27 19:02   ` Yuyang Du
2014-07-28 10:38     ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-07-29  1:17       ` Yuyang Du
2014-07-29 13:06         ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-07-30 10:13     ` Morten Rasmussen
2014-07-30 10:21       ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-07-30 10:57         ` Morten Rasmussen
2014-07-30 19:17       ` Yuyang Du
2014-07-31  8:54         ` Morten Rasmussen
2014-07-31  2:15           ` Yuyang Du
2014-07-20  5:46 ` Mike Galbraith
2014-07-27 19:34   ` Yuyang Du
2014-07-28  7:49     ` Mike Galbraith
2014-07-28  0:01       ` Yuyang Du
2014-07-28  8:55     ` Peter Zijlstra

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