From: Greg Kroah-Hartman <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org>
To: Jiri Kosina <jkosina@suse.cz>
Cc: linux-api@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
john.stultz@linaro.org, arnd@arndb.de, tj@kernel.org,
marcel@holtmann.org, desrt@desrt.ca, hadess@hadess.net,
dh.herrmann@gmail.com, tixxdz@opendz.org,
simon.mcvittie@collabora.co.uk, daniel@zonque.org,
alban.crequy@collabora.co.uk, javier.martinez@collabora.co.uk,
teg@jklm.no
Subject: Re: [PATCH 00/12] Add kdbus implementation
Date: Wed, 29 Oct 2014 16:12:31 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20141029231231.GA19344@kroah.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20141029231106.GB16548@kroah.com>
On Wed, Oct 29, 2014 at 04:11:06PM -0700, Greg Kroah-Hartman wrote:
> On Thu, Oct 30, 2014 at 12:00:16AM +0100, Jiri Kosina wrote:
> > On Wed, 29 Oct 2014, Greg Kroah-Hartman wrote:
> >
> > > kdbus is a kernel-level IPC implementation that aims for resemblance to
> > > the the protocol layer with the existing userspace D-Bus daemon while
> > > enabling some features that couldn't be implemented before in userspace.
> >
> > I'd be interested in the features that can't be implemented in userspace
> > (and therefore would justify existence of kdbus in the kernel). Could you
> > please point me to such list / documentation?
>
> Lennart has given whole talks about this in the past, here's a recent
> talk going into the details:
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HPbQzm_iz_k
>
> > It seems to me that most of the highlight features from the cover letter
> > can be "easily" (for certain definition of that word, of course)
> > implemented in userspace (vmsplice(), sending fd through unix socket, user
> > namespaces, UUID management, etc).
>
> We have dbus in userspace today, but that requires extra copies of data,
> and isn't easy, or even possible, to do some of the application-specific
> bus logic that kdbus provides. See the talk above for details, there
> are slides around somewhere with just text that we can add to the cover
> letter if that will help out in future spins of this patch series.
Here's an article describing it as well:
https://lwn.net/Articles/580194/
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2014-10-29 23:13 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 103+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2014-10-29 22:00 Greg Kroah-Hartman
2014-10-29 22:00 ` kdbus: add documentation Greg Kroah-Hartman
2014-10-30 12:20 ` Peter Meerwald
2014-11-02 1:29 ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2014-10-29 22:00 ` kdbus: add header file Greg Kroah-Hartman
2014-10-30 8:20 ` Arnd Bergmann
2014-10-30 11:02 ` Tom Gundersen
2014-10-30 11:26 ` Arnd Bergmann
2014-10-30 11:52 ` Daniel Mack
2014-10-30 12:03 ` Arnd Bergmann
2014-10-31 10:03 ` Daniel Mack
2014-10-29 22:00 ` kdbus: add driver skeleton, ioctl entry points and utility functions Greg Kroah-Hartman
2014-10-30 3:50 ` Eric W. Biederman
2014-10-30 23:45 ` Thomas Gleixner
2014-10-31 0:23 ` Jiri Kosina
2014-10-31 0:42 ` Thomas Gleixner
2014-10-29 22:00 ` kdbus: add connection pool implementation Greg Kroah-Hartman
2014-10-29 22:00 ` kdbus: add connection, queue handling and message validation code Greg Kroah-Hartman
[not found] ` <87k33iw759.fsf@x220.int.ebiederm.org>
2014-10-30 3:55 ` Andy Lutomirski
2014-10-30 9:06 ` Djalal Harouni
2014-10-29 22:00 ` kdbus: add code to gather metadata Greg Kroah-Hartman
2014-10-29 22:33 ` Andy Lutomirski
2014-10-30 0:13 ` Andy Lutomirski
2014-10-30 8:45 ` Daniel Mack
2014-10-30 14:07 ` Andy Lutomirski
2014-10-30 15:54 ` Daniel Mack
2014-10-30 21:01 ` Andy Lutomirski
2014-11-01 11:05 ` Daniel Mack
2014-11-01 16:19 ` Andy Lutomirski
2014-11-03 12:00 ` Simon McVittie
2014-11-03 17:05 ` Andy Lutomirski
2014-10-30 8:09 ` Daniel Mack
2014-10-29 22:00 ` kdbus: add code for notifications and matches Greg Kroah-Hartman
2014-10-29 22:00 ` kdbus: add code for buses, domains and endpoints Greg Kroah-Hartman
2014-10-30 3:59 ` Eric W. Biederman
2014-10-30 9:58 ` Djalal Harouni
2014-10-30 12:15 ` Eric W. Biederman
2014-10-30 14:48 ` Djalal Harouni
2014-10-30 14:58 ` Andy Lutomirski
2014-10-30 18:08 ` Djalal Harouni
2014-10-30 18:46 ` Simon McVittie
2014-11-05 19:59 ` Djalal Harouni
2014-10-30 20:37 ` Andy Lutomirski
[not found] ` <m2ublh$5h7$2@ger.gmane.org>
2014-10-30 22:00 ` Andy Lutomirski
2014-10-30 23:38 ` How Not To Use kref (was Re: kdbus: add code for buses, domains and endpoints) Al Viro
2014-10-31 18:00 ` Linus Torvalds
2014-10-31 19:56 ` Al Viro
2014-11-04 9:11 ` David Herrmann
2014-10-31 1:39 ` kdbus: add code for buses, domains and endpoints Al Viro
2014-10-31 9:55 ` Daniel Mack
2014-10-29 22:00 ` kdbus: add name registry implementation Greg Kroah-Hartman
2014-10-29 22:00 ` kdbus: add policy database implementation Greg Kroah-Hartman
2014-10-29 22:00 ` kdbus: add Makefile, Kconfig and MAINTAINERS entry Greg Kroah-Hartman
2014-10-29 22:00 ` kdbus: add selftests Greg Kroah-Hartman
2014-10-30 8:31 ` Arnd Bergmann
2014-11-14 3:42 ` Michael Ellerman
2014-11-14 8:56 ` Daniel Mack
2014-10-29 22:15 ` [PATCH 00/12] Add kdbus implementation Greg KH
2014-10-30 4:04 ` Eric W. Biederman
2014-10-30 7:12 ` Daniel Mack
2014-10-29 22:15 ` Andy Lutomirski
2014-10-29 22:27 ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2014-10-29 22:34 ` Andy Lutomirski
2014-10-30 2:27 ` Andy Lutomirski
2014-10-30 4:20 ` Eric W. Biederman
2014-10-30 10:15 ` Tom Gundersen
2014-10-30 12:02 ` Eric W. Biederman
2014-10-30 13:48 ` Andy Lutomirski
2014-10-29 22:19 ` Andy Lutomirski
2014-10-29 22:25 ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2014-10-29 22:28 ` Andy Lutomirski
2014-10-29 22:36 ` Andy Lutomirski
2014-10-30 7:44 ` Daniel Mack
2014-11-05 14:34 ` Daniel Mack
2014-10-29 23:00 ` Jiri Kosina
2014-10-29 23:11 ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2014-10-29 23:12 ` Greg Kroah-Hartman [this message]
2014-10-29 23:24 ` Jiri Kosina
2014-10-29 23:26 ` Jiri Kosina
2014-10-29 23:34 ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2014-10-29 23:40 ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2014-10-29 23:55 ` Andy Lutomirski
2014-10-30 11:52 ` Tom Gundersen
2014-10-30 12:28 ` Simon McVittie
2014-10-30 13:59 ` Andy Lutomirski
2014-10-30 20:28 ` Alex Elsayed
2014-10-30 9:51 ` Karol Lewandowski
2014-10-30 10:44 ` Karol Lewandowski
2014-10-30 14:47 ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2014-10-30 19:55 ` Karol Lewandowski
2014-10-30 20:24 ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2014-10-31 11:15 ` Karol Lewandowski
2014-10-30 23:13 ` One Thousand Gnomes
2014-10-31 10:58 ` Karol Lewandowski
2014-10-30 23:39 ` Paul Moore
2014-10-31 14:21 ` Karol Lewandowski
[not found] ` <1414773397-26490-1-git-send-email-k.lewandowsk@samsung.com>
[not found] ` <20141107180120.GA15387@kroah.com>
2014-11-09 0:07 ` [RFC PATCH 0/5] kdbus: add support for lsm Karol Lewandowski
[not found] ` <1414773397-26490-2-git-send-email-k.lewandowsk@samsung.com>
2014-11-17 1:47 ` [PATCH 1/5] kdbus: extend structures with security pointer " Karol Lewandowski
2014-11-17 18:37 ` Greg KH
2014-11-02 1:21 ` [PATCH 00/12] Add kdbus implementation Greg Kroah-Hartman
2014-11-03 14:38 ` One Thousand Gnomes
2014-10-30 8:33 ` Arnd Bergmann
2014-10-30 16:17 ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
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