From: Simon McVittie <simon.mcvittie@collabora.co.uk>
To: Tom Gundersen <teg@jklm.no>, Andy Lutomirski <luto@amacapital.net>
Cc: Greg Kroah-Hartman <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org>,
Jiri Kosina <jkosina@suse.cz>,
Linux API <linux-api@vger.kernel.org>,
"linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
John Stultz <john.stultz@linaro.org>,
Arnd Bergmann <arnd@arndb.de>, Tejun Heo <tj@kernel.org>,
Marcel Holtmann <marcel@holtmann.org>,
Ryan Lortie <desrt@desrt.ca>, Bastien Nocera <hadess@hadess.net>,
David Herrmann <dh.herrmann@gmail.com>,
Djalal Harouni <tixxdz@opendz.org>,
Daniel Mack <daniel@zonque.org>,
"alban.crequy" <alban.crequy@collabora.co.uk>,
Javier Martinez Canillas <javier.martinez@collabora.co.uk>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 00/12] Add kdbus implementation
Date: Thu, 30 Oct 2014 12:28:56 +0000 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <54522F08.7080005@collabora.co.uk> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAG-2HqX9RUQHiF1U_CXiDVVLS-7aUOQdYn7EVNSMZNdbe38cTA@mail.gmail.com>
On 30/10/14 11:52, Tom Gundersen wrote:
> For example, if you want to get the audit identity
> bits, you can now get this attached securely by the kernel, at the
> time the message is sent, rather than having to firest get the peer's
> $PID from SCM_CREDENTIALS and then read the audit identity bits racily
> from /proc/$PID/loginuid and /proc/$PID/sessionid
... which dbus-daemon (traditional D-Bus) deliberately doesn't offer as
a feature, because we are not aware of any way to do that over Unix
sockets without a race condition; and if we can't have it securely, we
don't want to have it at all.
<https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=83499>
It would be great if kdbus can fix that omission.
Capabilities are in the same boat, and as a result, systemd can't
currently have D-Bus methods that can only be called with CAP_WHATEVER.
> * fewer userspace context switches
[...]
> * fewer message copies in userspace
Readers are probably already aware of this, but note that D-Bus is
designed to be usable between mutually distrusting processes, which is
why we use Unix sockets and a lot of copies, rather than mmap or something.
S
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2014-10-30 12:29 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 103+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2014-10-29 22:00 Greg Kroah-Hartman
2014-10-29 22:00 ` kdbus: add documentation Greg Kroah-Hartman
2014-10-30 12:20 ` Peter Meerwald
2014-11-02 1:29 ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2014-10-29 22:00 ` kdbus: add header file Greg Kroah-Hartman
2014-10-30 8:20 ` Arnd Bergmann
2014-10-30 11:02 ` Tom Gundersen
2014-10-30 11:26 ` Arnd Bergmann
2014-10-30 11:52 ` Daniel Mack
2014-10-30 12:03 ` Arnd Bergmann
2014-10-31 10:03 ` Daniel Mack
2014-10-29 22:00 ` kdbus: add driver skeleton, ioctl entry points and utility functions Greg Kroah-Hartman
2014-10-30 3:50 ` Eric W. Biederman
2014-10-30 23:45 ` Thomas Gleixner
2014-10-31 0:23 ` Jiri Kosina
2014-10-31 0:42 ` Thomas Gleixner
2014-10-29 22:00 ` kdbus: add connection pool implementation Greg Kroah-Hartman
2014-10-29 22:00 ` kdbus: add connection, queue handling and message validation code Greg Kroah-Hartman
[not found] ` <87k33iw759.fsf@x220.int.ebiederm.org>
2014-10-30 3:55 ` Andy Lutomirski
2014-10-30 9:06 ` Djalal Harouni
2014-10-29 22:00 ` kdbus: add code to gather metadata Greg Kroah-Hartman
2014-10-29 22:33 ` Andy Lutomirski
2014-10-30 0:13 ` Andy Lutomirski
2014-10-30 8:45 ` Daniel Mack
2014-10-30 14:07 ` Andy Lutomirski
2014-10-30 15:54 ` Daniel Mack
2014-10-30 21:01 ` Andy Lutomirski
2014-11-01 11:05 ` Daniel Mack
2014-11-01 16:19 ` Andy Lutomirski
2014-11-03 12:00 ` Simon McVittie
2014-11-03 17:05 ` Andy Lutomirski
2014-10-30 8:09 ` Daniel Mack
2014-10-29 22:00 ` kdbus: add code for notifications and matches Greg Kroah-Hartman
2014-10-29 22:00 ` kdbus: add code for buses, domains and endpoints Greg Kroah-Hartman
2014-10-30 3:59 ` Eric W. Biederman
2014-10-30 9:58 ` Djalal Harouni
2014-10-30 12:15 ` Eric W. Biederman
2014-10-30 14:48 ` Djalal Harouni
2014-10-30 14:58 ` Andy Lutomirski
2014-10-30 18:08 ` Djalal Harouni
2014-10-30 18:46 ` Simon McVittie
2014-11-05 19:59 ` Djalal Harouni
2014-10-30 20:37 ` Andy Lutomirski
[not found] ` <m2ublh$5h7$2@ger.gmane.org>
2014-10-30 22:00 ` Andy Lutomirski
2014-10-30 23:38 ` How Not To Use kref (was Re: kdbus: add code for buses, domains and endpoints) Al Viro
2014-10-31 18:00 ` Linus Torvalds
2014-10-31 19:56 ` Al Viro
2014-11-04 9:11 ` David Herrmann
2014-10-31 1:39 ` kdbus: add code for buses, domains and endpoints Al Viro
2014-10-31 9:55 ` Daniel Mack
2014-10-29 22:00 ` kdbus: add name registry implementation Greg Kroah-Hartman
2014-10-29 22:00 ` kdbus: add policy database implementation Greg Kroah-Hartman
2014-10-29 22:00 ` kdbus: add Makefile, Kconfig and MAINTAINERS entry Greg Kroah-Hartman
2014-10-29 22:00 ` kdbus: add selftests Greg Kroah-Hartman
2014-10-30 8:31 ` Arnd Bergmann
2014-11-14 3:42 ` Michael Ellerman
2014-11-14 8:56 ` Daniel Mack
2014-10-29 22:15 ` [PATCH 00/12] Add kdbus implementation Greg KH
2014-10-30 4:04 ` Eric W. Biederman
2014-10-30 7:12 ` Daniel Mack
2014-10-29 22:15 ` Andy Lutomirski
2014-10-29 22:27 ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2014-10-29 22:34 ` Andy Lutomirski
2014-10-30 2:27 ` Andy Lutomirski
2014-10-30 4:20 ` Eric W. Biederman
2014-10-30 10:15 ` Tom Gundersen
2014-10-30 12:02 ` Eric W. Biederman
2014-10-30 13:48 ` Andy Lutomirski
2014-10-29 22:19 ` Andy Lutomirski
2014-10-29 22:25 ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2014-10-29 22:28 ` Andy Lutomirski
2014-10-29 22:36 ` Andy Lutomirski
2014-10-30 7:44 ` Daniel Mack
2014-11-05 14:34 ` Daniel Mack
2014-10-29 23:00 ` Jiri Kosina
2014-10-29 23:11 ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2014-10-29 23:12 ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2014-10-29 23:24 ` Jiri Kosina
2014-10-29 23:26 ` Jiri Kosina
2014-10-29 23:34 ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2014-10-29 23:40 ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2014-10-29 23:55 ` Andy Lutomirski
2014-10-30 11:52 ` Tom Gundersen
2014-10-30 12:28 ` Simon McVittie [this message]
2014-10-30 13:59 ` Andy Lutomirski
2014-10-30 20:28 ` Alex Elsayed
2014-10-30 9:51 ` Karol Lewandowski
2014-10-30 10:44 ` Karol Lewandowski
2014-10-30 14:47 ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2014-10-30 19:55 ` Karol Lewandowski
2014-10-30 20:24 ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2014-10-31 11:15 ` Karol Lewandowski
2014-10-30 23:13 ` One Thousand Gnomes
2014-10-31 10:58 ` Karol Lewandowski
2014-10-30 23:39 ` Paul Moore
2014-10-31 14:21 ` Karol Lewandowski
[not found] ` <1414773397-26490-1-git-send-email-k.lewandowsk@samsung.com>
[not found] ` <20141107180120.GA15387@kroah.com>
2014-11-09 0:07 ` [RFC PATCH 0/5] kdbus: add support for lsm Karol Lewandowski
[not found] ` <1414773397-26490-2-git-send-email-k.lewandowsk@samsung.com>
2014-11-17 1:47 ` [PATCH 1/5] kdbus: extend structures with security pointer " Karol Lewandowski
2014-11-17 18:37 ` Greg KH
2014-11-02 1:21 ` [PATCH 00/12] Add kdbus implementation Greg Kroah-Hartman
2014-11-03 14:38 ` One Thousand Gnomes
2014-10-30 8:33 ` Arnd Bergmann
2014-10-30 16:17 ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
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