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From: Karol Lewandowski <k.lewandowsk@samsung.com>
To: Paul Moore <pmoore@redhat.com>,
	Greg Kroah-Hartman <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org>
Cc: Jiri Kosina <jkosina@suse.cz>,
	Linux API <linux-api@vger.kernel.org>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	John Stultz <john.stultz@linaro.org>,
	Arnd Bergmann <arnd@arndb.de>, Tejun Heo <tj@kernel.org>,
	Ryan Lortie <desrt@desrt.ca>,
	Simon McVittie <simon.mcvittie@collabora.co.uk>,
	daniel@zonque.org, David Herrmann <dh.herrmann@gmail.com>,
	"casey.schaufler@intel.com" <casey.schaufler@intel.com>,
	marcel@holtmann.org, tixxdz@opendz.org,
	javier.martinez@collabora.co.uk, alban.crequy@collabora.co.uk,
	linux-security-module@vger.kernel.org,
	Karol Lewandowski <lmctlx@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 00/12] Add kdbus implementation
Date: Fri, 31 Oct 2014 15:21:39 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <54539AF3.6060302@samsung.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <5113482.YUK8i6Rueb@sifl>

On 2014-10-31 00:39, Paul Moore wrote:
> On Thursday, October 30, 2014 08:55:56 PM Karol Lewandowski wrote:
>> On 2014-10-30 15:47, Greg Kroah-Hartman wrote:
>>> Other than that, I don't know exactly what your patches do, or why they
>>> are needed, care to go into details?
>>
>> Patches in question were supposed to add few hooks for kdbus-specific
>> operations that doesn't seem to have compatible semantics with hooks
>> currently available in LSM.
>>
>> kdbus' bus introduces quite a few new concepts that we wanted to be able
>> to limit based on MAC label/context, eg.
>>
>>  - check flags at HELO stage (say disallow fd passing),
>>
>>  - restrict ability to acquire name to certain subjects (for system bus),
>>
>>  - disallow creation of new buses,
>>
>>  - limit scope of broadcasts,
>>
>>  - etc.
>>
>> Please take a look at hook list - I think most of names are
>> self-explanatory:
>>
>>  
>> https://github.com/lmctl/linux/blob/a9fe4c33b6e5ab25a243e0590df406aabb6add1
>> 2/include/linux/security.h#L1874
>>
>> kdbus modifications were pretty light - with most visible change being
>> addition of opaque security pointer to kdbus_bus and similar structs.
> 
> [NOTE: we really should add the LSM list to this discussion and future 
> patchset postings.]
> 
> Also, to be completely honest, I don't think we ever really arrived at any 
> final conclusion about those LSM/kdbus hooks either.  At least I don't think I 
> ever really satisfied myself that what we had was the "right" solution.

Agreed, "hooks" are far from being complete.  I think that patches
were and still are - a starting point for discussion, not "a solution"
itself.

Timing wasn't good either - since our last discussion (Apr/May 2014)
kdbus policy engine has been completely rewritten and few core concepts
changed too.

> We both got busy and kinda drifted away from this effort.  Karol, did you do 
> any further work on the hooks?

I didn't.  I was waiting for the peace of change in kdbus to slow
down a bit and, honestly, wasn't expecting submission in few next
months...

I'll do my best to post RFC patchset today or tomorrow.

Thanks
-- 
Karol Lewandowski, Samsung R&D Institute Poland

  reply	other threads:[~2014-10-31 14:22 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 103+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2014-10-29 22:00 Greg Kroah-Hartman
2014-10-29 22:00 ` kdbus: add documentation Greg Kroah-Hartman
2014-10-30 12:20   ` Peter Meerwald
2014-11-02  1:29     ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2014-10-29 22:00 ` kdbus: add header file Greg Kroah-Hartman
2014-10-30  8:20   ` Arnd Bergmann
2014-10-30 11:02     ` Tom Gundersen
2014-10-30 11:26       ` Arnd Bergmann
2014-10-30 11:52         ` Daniel Mack
2014-10-30 12:03           ` Arnd Bergmann
2014-10-31 10:03             ` Daniel Mack
2014-10-29 22:00 ` kdbus: add driver skeleton, ioctl entry points and utility functions Greg Kroah-Hartman
2014-10-30  3:50   ` Eric W. Biederman
2014-10-30 23:45   ` Thomas Gleixner
2014-10-31  0:23     ` Jiri Kosina
2014-10-31  0:42       ` Thomas Gleixner
2014-10-29 22:00 ` kdbus: add connection pool implementation Greg Kroah-Hartman
2014-10-29 22:00 ` kdbus: add connection, queue handling and message validation code Greg Kroah-Hartman
     [not found]   ` <87k33iw759.fsf@x220.int.ebiederm.org>
2014-10-30  3:55     ` Andy Lutomirski
2014-10-30  9:06       ` Djalal Harouni
2014-10-29 22:00 ` kdbus: add code to gather metadata Greg Kroah-Hartman
2014-10-29 22:33   ` Andy Lutomirski
2014-10-30  0:13     ` Andy Lutomirski
2014-10-30  8:45       ` Daniel Mack
2014-10-30 14:07         ` Andy Lutomirski
2014-10-30 15:54           ` Daniel Mack
2014-10-30 21:01             ` Andy Lutomirski
2014-11-01 11:05               ` Daniel Mack
2014-11-01 16:19                 ` Andy Lutomirski
2014-11-03 12:00                   ` Simon McVittie
2014-11-03 17:05                     ` Andy Lutomirski
2014-10-30  8:09     ` Daniel Mack
2014-10-29 22:00 ` kdbus: add code for notifications and matches Greg Kroah-Hartman
2014-10-29 22:00 ` kdbus: add code for buses, domains and endpoints Greg Kroah-Hartman
2014-10-30  3:59   ` Eric W. Biederman
2014-10-30  9:58     ` Djalal Harouni
2014-10-30 12:15       ` Eric W. Biederman
2014-10-30 14:48         ` Djalal Harouni
2014-10-30 14:58           ` Andy Lutomirski
2014-10-30 18:08             ` Djalal Harouni
2014-10-30 18:46               ` Simon McVittie
2014-11-05 19:59                 ` Djalal Harouni
2014-10-30 20:37               ` Andy Lutomirski
     [not found]                 ` <m2ublh$5h7$2@ger.gmane.org>
2014-10-30 22:00                   ` Andy Lutomirski
2014-10-30 23:38   ` How Not To Use kref (was Re: kdbus: add code for buses, domains and endpoints) Al Viro
2014-10-31 18:00     ` Linus Torvalds
2014-10-31 19:56       ` Al Viro
2014-11-04  9:11     ` David Herrmann
2014-10-31  1:39   ` kdbus: add code for buses, domains and endpoints Al Viro
2014-10-31  9:55     ` Daniel Mack
2014-10-29 22:00 ` kdbus: add name registry implementation Greg Kroah-Hartman
2014-10-29 22:00 ` kdbus: add policy database implementation Greg Kroah-Hartman
2014-10-29 22:00 ` kdbus: add Makefile, Kconfig and MAINTAINERS entry Greg Kroah-Hartman
2014-10-29 22:00 ` kdbus: add selftests Greg Kroah-Hartman
2014-10-30  8:31   ` Arnd Bergmann
2014-11-14  3:42   ` Michael Ellerman
2014-11-14  8:56     ` Daniel Mack
2014-10-29 22:15 ` [PATCH 00/12] Add kdbus implementation Greg KH
2014-10-30  4:04   ` Eric W. Biederman
2014-10-30  7:12     ` Daniel Mack
2014-10-29 22:15 ` Andy Lutomirski
2014-10-29 22:27   ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2014-10-29 22:34     ` Andy Lutomirski
2014-10-30  2:27     ` Andy Lutomirski
2014-10-30  4:20       ` Eric W. Biederman
2014-10-30 10:15         ` Tom Gundersen
2014-10-30 12:02           ` Eric W. Biederman
2014-10-30 13:48           ` Andy Lutomirski
2014-10-29 22:19 ` Andy Lutomirski
2014-10-29 22:25   ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2014-10-29 22:28     ` Andy Lutomirski
2014-10-29 22:36       ` Andy Lutomirski
2014-10-30  7:44       ` Daniel Mack
2014-11-05 14:34   ` Daniel Mack
2014-10-29 23:00 ` Jiri Kosina
2014-10-29 23:11   ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2014-10-29 23:12     ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2014-10-29 23:24     ` Jiri Kosina
2014-10-29 23:26       ` Jiri Kosina
2014-10-29 23:34         ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2014-10-29 23:40       ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2014-10-29 23:55         ` Andy Lutomirski
2014-10-30 11:52           ` Tom Gundersen
2014-10-30 12:28             ` Simon McVittie
2014-10-30 13:59             ` Andy Lutomirski
2014-10-30 20:28               ` Alex Elsayed
2014-10-30  9:51         ` Karol Lewandowski
2014-10-30 10:44           ` Karol Lewandowski
2014-10-30 14:47             ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2014-10-30 19:55               ` Karol Lewandowski
2014-10-30 20:24                 ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2014-10-31 11:15                   ` Karol Lewandowski
2014-10-30 23:13                 ` One Thousand Gnomes
2014-10-31 10:58                   ` Karol Lewandowski
2014-10-30 23:39                 ` Paul Moore
2014-10-31 14:21                   ` Karol Lewandowski [this message]
     [not found]                     ` <1414773397-26490-1-git-send-email-k.lewandowsk@samsung.com>
     [not found]                       ` <20141107180120.GA15387@kroah.com>
2014-11-09  0:07                         ` [RFC PATCH 0/5] kdbus: add support for lsm Karol Lewandowski
     [not found]                       ` <1414773397-26490-2-git-send-email-k.lewandowsk@samsung.com>
2014-11-17  1:47                         ` [PATCH 1/5] kdbus: extend structures with security pointer " Karol Lewandowski
2014-11-17 18:37                           ` Greg KH
2014-11-02  1:21   ` [PATCH 00/12] Add kdbus implementation Greg Kroah-Hartman
2014-11-03 14:38     ` One Thousand Gnomes
2014-10-30  8:33 ` Arnd Bergmann
2014-10-30 16:17   ` Greg Kroah-Hartman

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